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[–] Thecornershop@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Australia chiming in here. I'd encourage you to dive into how counting works over here.

I've worked at poling places several times.

We have ranked choice voting. Always have as far as I know.

We definitely undertake a first count at the poling place. It is then send to a hub location and verified, then if close enough it is recounted.

For many poling places there is a large clear majority so the ranked choices do not impact the outcome.

For those that are close, there are many recounts with a significant amount of redundancy and scrutiny.

I remember watching tutorial videos from the Australian Electoral Commission when I started, not sure if they are publicly available but they would be a great starting point for you!

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[–] chaogomu@kbin.social -3 points 1 year ago

I know that the counting can be better. However, that wouldn't fix what happened in Burlington.

That case is an example of how fucked the system is when everything is working as intended. The result was so bad that Burlington repealed their Ranked Choice law, because in that election, Plurality would have given a better result.

It really says something about a system when Plurality can do a better job.

Then there's the fact that Ranked Choice doesn't actually get rid of the spoiler effect, or really encourage the growth of viable third parties. Which are the two major claims about the system.

And the very worst part of the system, ballot exhaustion. Imagine that you're only allowed to rank 5 candidates and there are a dozen in the running. Now imagine that your 2nd through 5th choices are eliminated before your 1st choice is. At the 6th round, you might as well not have cast a ballot, but if your 1st choice was eliminated first, one of your other choices could have won.

Ballot exhaustion means that an average of 10% of the vote is just thrown away. Those people's opinions don't matter, they might as well have not voted at all.

Elections in the states are often won by less than 10%. I can say with certainty that RCV has elected the wrong people, time after time.