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[–] Raphael@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

In any decent country, this statement is reason enough for prison.

[–] Poggervania@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Arrest this person, they said something I don’t like!”

Dude’s a certified sexist and racist douche and deserves to be ridiculed for what he says, but I’ll defend freedom of speech. Doesn’t mean he has freedom of consequence, but he can say whatever he wants.

[–] Raphael@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Racism is a crime, even in America.

[–] chaogomu@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Sadly, it is not. Hate speech is just speech in America, protected by the first amendment like any other form of speech.

Furthermore, there are zero laws that outlaw racism, because the people writing the laws have historically been the racists. They aren't going to outlaw their own words.

[–] Laticauda@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As racist and stupid this statement is, it's not reason enough for prison. Putting people in prison for saying something mean or dumb is the exact kind of thing the GOP would want to be able to do to anyone they deem "too woke". Let's not lower ourselves to their way of thinking.

[–] Raphael@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here in Brazil we had a politician who accidentally slipped a racist anecdote, he was forced to resign.

[–] EnderWi99in@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

If he were a Democrat and he said something like that he'd be forced to resign too, but for the GOP (at least the fringes), this is pretty on brand.

[–] EnderWi99in@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

For PRISON?? Over a racist statement? That's mental. I think he's a fucking racist moron but I'll defend his ability to speak freely.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then we need to educate people better. Once you hit the point where the hegemony decides idiots are more useful to their goals it begins to breakdown. The People are left stupid and vulnerable and they begin to cling to any mouthpiece that is loud enough. A vicious cycle initiates where hatred and fear are the only offspring. If we aren't going to take education seriously we need to watch what statements people are gravitating towards. Least we wind up with the common man investing in evil ideology.

[–] EnderWi99in@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I completely agree, and wherever you live I hope that you vote on improving public education for your state. I certainly do in mine, and we're represented by people who share that mindset as well. The problem is there's a high chance you live in one of these places too whereas many other states have declining public education standards and the voting base doesn't seem to care, or actively distrusts education unfortunately.

[–] Raphael@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Racism is a crime, even in America.

[–] Djtecha@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No... No it's not. I'm not sure where you're getting your law books from.

[–] Raphael@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Racism is not a crime in America then? Can I just travel over there and go throw around racial slurs?

[–] ThunderingJerboa@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Yes, technically. It can be used as an enhancer (elevating an assault/battery to a hate crime) but its not a crime in itself.

[–] EnderWi99in@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hate crimes are what you're thinking of here. Racism is awful but it's not illegal. Saying racist things and verbally harassing, threatening, or abusing people are two very different things.