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President says ‘epidemic of gun violence is tearing our communities apart’ after mass shootings in Philadelphia, Fort Worth, Baltimore and Chicago

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[–] jimbolauski@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those numbers are intentionally misleading, they are using people that killed themselves to prop up the numbers. It's disgusting.

[–] lunar_parking@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And those shouldn't count? Do you have any idea how much easy access to guns increases suicides? Many, many suicidal people would still be alive without the easy access to guns in the US. It's one of the easiest and painless ways to kill yourself.

[–] borkcorkedforks@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Things like suicide are far more related to a lack mental healthcare and the stigma around getting help than weather or not people are allowed to own firearms. Not everyone has those kinds of problems. An assault weapons ban is certainly unrelated to those seeking self-harm and most crime.

[–] sombrero@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

a gun makes it incredibly easy to end someone, including yourself. It takes the killing out of killing and I can promise you that makes a massive difference to the number of both killings and suicides.

[–] Katos@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So we ban pain killers too? Cleaning chemicals? Rat poison?

The gun didn't make you kill yourself. Not getting help killed you. Stop chasing the guns, they aren't the the problem. The problem is that so many people see them as a solution and they need help.

[–] sombrero@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

try to travel a bit, see the world.

[–] Varixable@lemmy.fmhy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

I am so tired of seeing this braindead take being used as any sort of "gotcha".