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[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Both France and Germany were saying the same thing most of the time in the last 20 years, yet they lied, as the last year and their sabotage of Minsk agreement shown. Macron is only saying this because people in France may soon scrap the false guillotine they have been carrying to protests sometimes and set up a real one.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe France will have an actual revolution at this point and people create a socialist government that works in their interest. We are living through weeks when decades happen here.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah but i don't really see the protests turning into political strike, and i certainly don't see a revolutionary socialist party there. I suspect it would be at most changing one neoliberal government for another one.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

My understanding is that socialists have a strong presence in France, and the current wave of strikes is driven by trade unions. There is a political angle to it, people are sick of neoliberalsim. I guess we'll see where things go.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Pretty much everyone except France and Germany sabotaged the Minsk agreement. Please don't spread this kind of historical revisionism. And of course they had to adapt to the new reality after the Russian aggression in Ukraine.

[–] RedBlackUnity@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Merkel admitted that the point of the Minsk agreement was to "buy time for Ukraine." So, it appears Germany, at least, was never negotiating in good faith

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Hollande admitted this as well. It's basically an open secret at this point. People who keep pretending this isn't so expose themselves as being completely morally bankrupt.