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[–] yoz@aussie.zone 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I dont understand how can people get away with not paying their employees

[–] bighi@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s the US. If there is a country that hates its citizens more than this one, I haven’t heard of it yet.

Any time they can take things from you and give it to companies, they will.

So it shouldn’t really be a surprise.

But if you forget to pay $1 to a company, all hell breaks loose.

[–] whatsarefoogee@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It’s the US. If there is a country that hates its citizens more than this one, I haven’t heard of it yet.

Russia has been in the news cycle for over a year because of the war they started.

They imprison anyone critical of the government or the war. They imprisoned a man and deprived him of his fatherly rights because his daughter made an anti-war drawing at school.

They conscript men from poor ethnic regions by offering them a salary that's 10x of their current one. Then they send them to the front with no training or equipment to be cannon fodder.

They are stealing from the pension fund to support their war, which will have catastrophic consequences for the elderly population in the future.

I mean shit. Have you never heard of North Korea?

I guess none of that counts. US bad.

[–] crastoman@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah but it's too easy to compare with non-democratic countries and regimes. You know from the start they are not fair to citizen.

You should compare with the best (if any) not the worst.

[–] lostme@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Russia has been in the news cycle for over a year because of the war they started.

The US isn't much of a peace-loving hippie country either.

And even with corrupt, oppressive and consistently shit in general government Russia seems to have better worker rights than the US.

On the topic of the post, the employers in the US can terminate anyone for any reason as long as it doesn't break anti-discrimination or anti-retaliation laws, and do so without any severance pay, unless it is specified in the contract. Source

In contrast, the employers in Russia can terminate workers only on grounds stated in the federal laws. And in case of redundancy the employer has to offer suitable alternative employment, pay severance pay equal to a monthly wage and then keep paying salary for up to three months while former employee is searching for a job. Source

On an another egregious note, in the US paid leave is up to the employer to offer once again, whereas Russia mandates 28 paid vacation days annually and 14 days of national holidays (which are also paid). Wikipedia link

While there isn't much info on North Korea, the US is doing barely more than nothing in terms of worker protection, so, as fucked up as it sounds, North Korea being better in that aspect is within the realms of possibility. Either way, be it "the worst" or "second worst, just after North Korea", it is mind-boggling how a rich and developed country can be so shit that you have to look at the very bottom of the barrel to find something worse.

In conclusion, US bad.

[–] clutchmatic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Good contrasting points but the bar is set really low. Maybe Europe is a better comparison?

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They ought to rename "US citizens" to "US consumers" or "US production units", then they wouldn't have to sue all the time.

[–] drasticpotatoes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Don’t give them any ideas!

Do you want the real answer? Its because workers rights in this country have been slowly eroding over the last 70 years. So now we've ended up in a situation where everyone keeps their head down and does as their told because they have no power to do anything about it.

Then the companies pay millions to prevent unions by telling us that unions are worthless. But if unions are worthless, why are they spending millions to prevent them ...?

[–] moistclump@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Agreed. Unfortunately, recently fired people are vulnerable and tired, and in financially precarious situations. Does anyone know who’s pursuing this, if it would cover everyone who wasn’t paid, and what happens if Twitter doesn’t follow through?