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[–] gsa32@lemmy.world 204 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Reddit’s incompetence is so mind-blowing it’s unreal. Even a crackhead can manage Reddit better than spez

[–] Nollij@lemmy.fmhy.ml 127 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You mean Musk? Because it seems that whatever insanity that Musk does, Spez wants to copy verbatim

[–] gsa32@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nobody said musk was competent 🤷‍♂️

[–] markr@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Nioxic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

that explains both the elogated moskowrat and the ex-mod of r/jaibait.

[–] 567PrimeMover@kbin.social 43 points 1 year ago (5 children)

All that needs to happen now is for meta to launch a reddit clone that steals away all of reddit's users

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Maybe Elron can buy reddit and finish destroying it

[–] gsa32@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wouldn’t surprise me if he did buy reddit

[–] mjhelto@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If that's the case, maybe reddit thinks if they do the same things Musk is doing to Twitter, it will appeas the Musk and he will want to buy reddit. I mean soon it will have everything that Twitter has: more bots than actual users, more ads, more pointless shit to make crypto boys wet, and fewer eyes on the page due to required signups and logins.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He said a few months ago that he was interested.

[–] SrElsewhere@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Good ol' Elon... delivering the coup de grâce.

[–] gsa32@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago
[–] Bushwhack@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Give it a few months

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Considering how successful Threads has been, they'd be stupid not to try. So they probably won't.

[–] KnumbKnuts@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Threads is horrible. Aside from being "not twitter," it's a waste of time.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I have a bad feeling Threads will turn into this. I mean it's literally called threads. Kind of up ends the "threadiverse" name.

[–] Bozicus@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not with a 500-character post limit, it’s not. If it decides to change from Instagram in a Twitter suit to Instagram in a Twitter suit in a Reddit flying saucer…?

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's kind of how instagram has worked... went from Photo Twitter with filters, to video, then to a Snapchat rip-off, then to a TikTok rip-off. Each time they pretty much forgot about the previous functions and promoted the new style and penalized the old one in the algorithms.

[–] Bozicus@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll have to take your word for how Instagram has developed, since I have used Instagram for a total of about 15 minutes, and found it confusing and unpleasant. And it's definitely a good argument for expecting them to shift ground and go for what's left of Reddit, (maybe after they've mopped up what's left of Twitter, which might not take long, since Twitter is busily mopping itself up).

When I say "Instagram in a Twitter skin," I'm going off articles saying that Threads uses Instagram's algorithm, which seems a little less likely to change than the user interface/general style...? I can try to find my exact sources, if you like. It seems like Meta might have business justifications for adding a separate Reddit-replacement service, though there could be equally strong reasons to morph Threads for that purpose. I'm morbidly interested in seeing how it develops.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The main difference between Reddit and Threads is the length and formatting possible for posts. Reddit of course has no limit, but Threads is inspired by Twitter, of course, and Twitter historically did 140 characters and now 280. Threads' limit is 500. Then, Reddit has subs/communities of course while Twitter is focused on following users and hashtags. It's a somewhat subtle difference but is significant. So, all Meta would have to do to make Threads like Reddit is to have a system for communities, and relax the length limit. (I don't actually believe they're interested in that, btw).

Algorithms for feeds actually do change a fair bit over time. For instance, YouTube's has changed a lot and used to recommend a lot more new things based on what other people who watched a video also watched, and now it recommends a lot of videos you already watched. Facebook went to a lot more 'a friend of yours liked' type posts. Twitter did too, apparently. I wouldn't be surprised if they use the IG algo as a starting point but adapt it to Threads over time.

[–] rm_dash_r_star@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Penn and Teller, Laurel and Hardy, Abbott and Costello, Musk and Spez

[–] jarfil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Hey, Penn&Teller are really good at what they do, and have been doing it for longer than either Twitter or Reddit existed.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

It's truly shocking. Like all the Twitter stuff that musk is doing, seems in some way connected to his ego and they seem like genuine mistakes that he's making because he's completely out of touch and an a******.

But with Reddit, it's like I can't follow the logic of these decisions at all, I can't tie back these obvious blunders to any sort of logical troubleshooting decision making process for their company.

Perplexing

[–] Ducks@ducks.dev 61 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The logic is the same as Twitter, Spez said so: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/reddit-blackout-protest-private-ceo-elon-musk-huffman-rcna89700

Huffman said he saw Musk’s handling of Twitter, which he purchased last year, as an example for Reddit to follow.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 73 points 1 year ago

Ad revenue down 70%, who wouldn't want to emulate that!

[–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fucking wat Spez been sniffing gas straight from the pump or wat?

[–] Cabrio@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Please, the Speztic has been fighting to cram his rectum docking nose deeper into the Elongated Muskrat's anus every chance he's gotten. He's the epitome of every single one of Elon's cucked, arse barnacle followers, the only difference is he also had a world class platform to burn to the ground in retarded mimicry of his waste of a good wankstain idol.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The logic is to destabilise public forums ahead of upcoming elections, so the wealthy can consolidate more power.

[–] rockprada@midwest.social 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hate that this take seems like the conspiracy take but also is totally plausible. Just look to the example of the Arab spring and how instrumental social media was for organizing. By fragmenting all social media it’s a lot less likely you see a massive resistance if shit goes sideways.

[–] jarfil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

This might be the top-down view, but the bottom-up is Telegram forums, Mastodon, Lemmy, and similar distributed hard to close down spaces.

"Divide and conquer" is a valid strategy when one can conquer each part separately, "guerrilla warfare" is the aftermath of failing to conquer the divided parts.

[–] mjhelto@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If this is the case, I guess it makes sense why these bad, seemingly "money-losing" changes aren't going to be felt by the company or CEO. Soon as they go public, the elite that pushed these changes will buy up the amount they promised, spez will take his payout, and they will have "union-busted" another prominent social media platform used for progressive ideas and discussion.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fun fact, most of the money Musk spent on Twitter was underwritten by stocks in Tesla, which have drastically shrunk in value since the purchase.

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

TSLA has mostly recovered though.

[–] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I can’t believe I’m saying this, but this r/conspiracy-tier theory is really the only explanation for this beyond ‘spez is dumber than a rock with brain damage’.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We just don't have as much firsthand information about Splez because he doesn't try to make himself the center of attention on his platform and the news.

[–] kingthrillgore@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

If only his common sense applied to running reddit.

[–] kbity@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's just Huffman, an Elon simp, deciding he wants IPO money and that the best way to make it is to blindly follow whatever Twitter does. Because, you know, Twitter's so hot and profitable right now.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Haha, right. Insane.

[–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Regulatory Capture is when corporations install favourable politicians and former employees into positions that enact policies and regulations favourable to the goals of industry (profit).

I think what we're saying here is Corporate Capture, where malicious players have captured major corporate entities in an attempt to neuter platforms that are used by the masses in an effort to control the messages given to the population.

People start talking about revolution, and suddenly the mediums used to enable free communication are removed.

[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Thanks for putting my thoughts into easily digestible words. Enshittification isn't natural, it's deliberate. Any CEO 's who throw up their hands and say they're all of ideas are just trying to pull the rip cords of their golden parachutes, given to them by people who want us to believe it's unavoidable.

Was not breaking something that hard? No, but it doesn't pay as well.

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

And Threads shows up right on cue with a stated deemphasis on news and politics. Meanwhile politicians are pushing to ban TikTok.

[–] Bozicus@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

Agreed that Threads is sinister, but I think a lot of the reason politicians dislike Tik Tok is that it’s exporting massive quantities of American users’ data to China. US politicians don’t really take it seriously enough to believe that teenagers could use it to start a revolution, but they are pretty sure the Chinese government can use it to spy on Americans.

[–] mjhelto@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, TikTok has China, who would love nothing more than to destabilize the US further to increase their global power. Had it not been for COVID, they only needed to wait since tRump was doing his best to help them out. I suspect this is why it's only TikTok they want to ban anymore; it's the only social media platform they can't directly control.

This has been happening to reddit over the last decade and was only accelerated when reddit was used to facilitate a short squeeze on the market and caused a bunch of "market makers" to lose a lot of money. They couldn't control reddit back then, but they sure can once it's public and they fulfill their fiduciary promises to reddit.

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I don’t use TikTok but it seems like young people use it to get the word out whenever they are treated unfairly. Huge portions of Reddit, IG, and YouTube are TikTok reposts now.

[–] jarfil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

politicians are pushing to ban TikTok

Depends on the country. All over Europe politicians are using TikTok to promote their political views...