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[–] the_seven_sins@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Can somebody explain why Windows is so much slower than... basically every other OS? I mean, what does Windows-Update differently then a apt-get upgrade?

[–] denissimo@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Windows updates are kind of snapshots, they replace more files than necessary and keep the old files incase the update fails or you wish to roll back x update. Besides that you're also given new packages and features you never asked for, because Windows loves their guinea pigs and doesn't care if something breaks because of it.

[–] Hovenko@iusearchlinux.fyi 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Funny things that immutable OS like MicroOs or Silverblue do that 1000 times more efficiently and you can even continue usyn system normally. Update applies after reboot.

Windows is just a pile of crap put together with a duct tape and chewing gum. They did no significant progress in decades.

[–] denissimo@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cheers for the reminder :) I've been meaning to upgrade to Silverblue because one time i managed to terminally break vanilla Fedora, it isn't so bad when you make use of a /home partition but having to set stuff up is still bleh.

[–] Hovenko@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 1 year ago

Check it out though in some test env. Silverblue has many things you will need to get used to and change your approach to the system. In general, whole root filesystem is read only so you wont be able to touch anything there like you normally do. The main idea is as well to keep main os as clean as possible. You should use mainly flatpak apps and toolboxes. If you have no option left, you install it normally to base os.

Oh, yes. And the package manager is rpm-ostree. Very confusing for me and I still do not understand how this works. It’s not very user friendly tool.

Suse micro OS does this in a lot better way. They do btrfs snapshots instead of ostree. Those are very familiar to the user and it even allows you to enter a snapshot and modify manually something. For example when Ineeded to add xbox controller driver to the kernel.

Sadly silverblue is lot more polished than Micro.

[–] FUsername@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

While I'm unsure of the actual reasons, the file system alone seems too be a pain.

[–] idoubledo@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

AFAIK the main reason is in how windows handles the filesystem - in linux everything is a file and all files are cached by default unless that memory is needed by default, so 100% memory utilization is the norm and where Linux operates most efficiently. In windows file caching seems architecturally be an after-thought and much less efficient - i.e. this causes handling a lot of files (like when updating the OS, where a lot of files need to be modified) to break the caching system and cause a lot of cache thrashing.