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The rest of the world is not taking a neutral stance at all. In fact, the rest of the world is pretty openly supporting Russia and denouncing the west at this point. https://usrussiaaccord.org/acura-viewpoint-krishen-mehta-the-ukraine-war-viewed-from-the-global-south/
All your support for the war is achieving is ensuring that thousands of people die and that we live in a more dangerous world driving us towards the end of human civilization and possible human extinction. This is what you are doing.
The tiny percentage of the world population living in the west wants to have a hegemony over the entire planet and is willing to risk a nuclear holocaust to achieve that. Anarchists are firmly at the forefront of that.
You need to lay off the Russian propaganda. The nonaligned states explicitly have a neutral stance and urge both sides to enter peace negotiations as soon as possible. This even includes China. That is not "supporting" Russia, who is clearly the aggressor and can chose to stop the war any time they want.
And I am not supporting the war, I am just realistic about what can be achieved and who is ultimately responsible.
You need to lay off the NATO propaganda. Everybody with a couple of brain cells to bang together understands why states don't want to openly state a policy contrary to the west. However, China and India have been pretty open regarding whom they see as being at fault for the war. Expecting intellectual honesty from an anarchist is not something to be expected though.
Pretty open support? Read again the official Chinese statement you yourself linked here a few days ago, that is not support, that is urging the Russians to stop this madness.
The fact that you think that's what it is shows just how detached from reality you are. China is literally discussing sending weapons to Russia right now, but yeah you keep on telling us that black is white. Hope NAFO pays you well.
The CIA has said they are discussing this. That is not a neutral source and clearly they have their own agenda in peddling these selective half-truths.
Here's what China's actually saying in case you're confused there
US literally stated they want to have a war with China over Taiwan if they can break Russia in Ukraine. China understands perfectly well what the plan is because US has said it openly and repeatedly.
How is an interview with the Russian ambassador and an US military analyst relevant to the question of if the Chinese are discussing to send weapons to Russia? As any large nation they are probably discussing a lot of things, but peddling that right now to the press is clearly NATO propaganda. Are you really so naive and not see that?
In case you weren't aware, Global Times is part of the Chinese state media and what it publishes is effectively the official position of the government. You can also read the official statement from China on US hegemony, and the proxy war in Ukraine:
The only naive person here is the one who thinks that this is the one time that NATO is on the right side of history and that the world is aligned with NATO in this war.
Again, where does this mention China discussing to send lethal aid to Russia? That is clearly not something China wants to discuss openly as it is at best a plan B. Stop trying to change the topic just because you realized you naively fell into the trap of NATO propaganda.
The discussion was about China, and global south in general, clearly supporting Russia in this war. The fact that China is likely to supply weapons to Russia as claimed by US, is just one example to underscore China's support, not the topic of the discussion. The document I linked is from the official Chinese government site and it plainly states that the war in Ukraine is a proxy war by the US. But you keep on trying to pretend that China isn't aligned with Russia here.
Also, absolutely hilarious that an anarchist who is supporting the war where thousands of people are dying is accusing others of falling into NATO propaganda trap. Zero self awareness on display. The fact that you genuinely think that countries outside the west support NATO in this conflict is truly the height of comedy.
I made no such claim, stop making a clown out of yourself.
Name calling is childish, tankie.
I only reply in kind dronie :)
Practise reading comprehension, not a single word in that says they are supporting NATO.
The documents I linked clearly show that they're not neutral either. Try to figure out whom they're supporting if they're not supporting NATO and they're not neutral.
All the documents that you linked say is that it is complicated. The world is not this simple black & white fairy tale you seem to believe in.
Nice straw man bud, nowhere did I claim anything of the sort.
You literally just did:
Perhaps take your own advice and work on your reading comprehension. China, and the rest of the global south, can support Russia and recognize that it is a complex geopolitical situation. Amazing this has to be spelled out for you.
Just for the public record: @yogthos@lemmy.ml is not a sock-puppet account of mine to make a total clown of pro-Russian red-brown "communist" positions 🤣
Just to clarify all of these accounts are mine and I am definitely sock puppeting to get more discussion going on Lemmy
Just for public record @poVoq@slrpnk.net is a real life anarchist and what he wrote in this thread are his genuine beliefs. This is the state of western "left". 🤣
Lol dont you live in Canada?
Yeah, and that's precisely why I criticize western involvement in the conflict. People living in the west are responsible for getting their countries to stop fuelling this conflict. This should not have to be explained to people.
I think you're both infected with the same brainworms but are refusing treatment.
if you say so