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No idea, I'm not ukranian! You'll have to search for that yourself.
I already know the answer. The platform they won on was to normalize relations with Russia and implement Minsk agreements. Then when they got in power they did the opposite. You should educate yourself on the subject so you don't make a clown of yourself in the future.
Why did you ask if you already knew?
There were posted images of old elections, giving the impression of a country divided by pro-europe or pro-russia when in 2019 there was a big support for the pro-EU and pro-NATO party all over the country. Just wanted to provide some context there.
I asked because I wanted to know whether you know. The context for what platform Zelensky got elected on is pretty important here. What you've provided is misinformation, go read up on the subject to educate yourself on it.
So I looked up their party platform of 2019, and it said that their goal was to restore the territorial integrity and state sovereignty of Ukraine. That might include the Minsk agreements, since I remember Zelensky talking about having free and fair referendrums in Donbass and Luhansk regarding autonomy.
However, nothing about relations with Russia, only stuff about implementing the EU-Ukraine Association Agreement and expand cooperation with the EU and NATO. Also something about relaunching their relations with their western neighbours?
Russia was never against Ukraine having relations with the west, not sure why you think that was relevant. Implementation of Minsk agreements was the core part of the platform because autonomy of Donbas was what the civil war since 2014 was all about.
Where did I state that Russia had something against Ukraines relations with the west?
Perhaps you should elaborate on why you thought relaunching relations with their western neighbours was relevant here.
Well you said their party platform was about normalizing relations with Russia and implementing the Minsk agreements and I couldn't find anything about that other than maybe restoring the territorial integrity and state sovereignty of Ukraine might include that since Zelensky talked about holding fair and free elections there.
The pictures posted before my replied gave the impression that you had two sides with one wanting to close ties with the EU and one with Russia. Since they were old elections from 2004 and 2010 the one from 2019 gives a much more different picture, telling us that the party with a platform of relaunching their relations with their western neighbours and implementing the EU-Ukraine Association Agreement and expand cooperation with the EU and NATO had a broad support over the country, not dividing it in two halves. So that's why I included that if that's what you mean. Otherwise I don't quite follow what you're asking.
What you keep admitting here is that you have absolutely no idea regarding the subject you're attempting to debate. Not sure why you felt the need to provide opinions on a topic you're utterly ignorant of.
Sorry, what?
I think I made a pretty good point? There's pictures of old elections showing a divided Ukraine chosing between Russia and Europe. I provided pictures of a more recent election showing a broad support, bridging that divide, for a pro-EU party with a presidential election with the same result.
What did I get wrong?
This all has been explained to you repeatedly in this very thread.
Well I reread the thread and no, it's unclear. Could you please specify?
I don't see any point since it's obvious this isn't a constructive discussion. If you're genuinely interested then go read up on the history of Ukrainian politics since the Maidan coup and why Zelensky was elected. This information is publicly available.
Oh I have a pretty okay understanding about Ukranian politics since Euromaidan and the start of the war. I also think that I have a good grasp on why Zelensky was so popular. I suppose you believe yourself to have an equivalent grasp of it?
Since you won't point out any faults in my comments, I'll take it as there are none?
Literally admitted earlier that you did not know what platform Zelensky ran on. I have repeatedly pointed out the problems with your comments. Feel free to go read them until you comprehend them. Since you evidently have the need to have the last word, I'm going to stop here.
You don't have to know every partys platform to have a grasp about the politics lol. No, you made statements which I adequately replied to.
Well, thanks for the last word then I suppose.
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