You're going to find Communists on a website made by Communists. Don't know what you mean by "genocide denial," but in another comment you were unironically recommending the Black Book of Communism's chief writer as a legitimate source, you're doing the "Communism killed 100 million" meme.

[+] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee -8 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

And you cited a website that denies the Uyghur Genocide and the Holodomor.

You're doing genocide denial.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Wow, I wonder what went on there…

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Uyghurs aren't being systematically murdered at scale. There are reeducation camps, but to call it "genocide" isn't accurate. You should read the UN report.

As for the idea of an "intentional famine," this is disputed at best. In reality, there was a famine in the 1930s that didn't have any racial motivations. Nobody denies the famine's existence.

So no, I'm not doing genocide denial, and I'm correct, you want to appear morally righteous regardless of the real facts.

[–] KombatWombat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

The UN hasn't explicitly called it genocide, but if you assume China's motivation is to reduce their population, it seems hard to argue its actions wouldn't qualify. Widespread arbitrary imprisonment and certainly forced sterilization would meet at least condition 4 of their requirement. The Genocide Convention's definition is below, emphasis mine:

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

Killing members of the group;

Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

4. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

You could argue they don't actually intend to reduce the Uyghur population, but it's hard to accept that a surge in the Xinjiang region's sterilization rate and the birth rate being cut in half over the course of three years are just anti-terrorism measures.