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[–] RandomPrivacyGuy@lemm.ee 20 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

Yeah, I remember how my grandfather and everyone he knew fought tooth and nail just to stop America from dismantling communism in eastern Europe!

Oh, wait, he didn't. Everyone celebrated when it fell.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 19 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] mamaboj@feddit.nl -3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

It's easy to say if one has never lived under communism rule. Stalinism caused the Holodomor in Ukraine and starved to death 2-7 million people. Mass deportations of people in Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, and many other countries in Eastern Europe. Federated platforms? Forget about it. Everything is controlled by the state. Do you want to say something that the government doesn't like? You can, but then you are off in a concentration camp (gulag) or sent to Siberia. Almost every family has a history of one of its family members being sent or imprisoned because they said something bad about communists / had a farm and could feed themselves with the products from their farm or land. On the contrary I would recommend to read The Animal Farm. "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 58 minutes ago (1 children)

The famine in the 30s was caused by natural causes and spiraled to greater heights because of collectivization, but this ended famines.

The Soviet system was similar to federated platforms. It was government controlled, in a somewhat federated manner. Read Soviet Democracy.

The GULAG administration was a prison system, not concentration camps. Read Russian Justice.

Orwell was a fan of Hitler, hated workers, and in Animal Farm specifically his biggest critique was that Russian Workers are stupid and destined to be taken advantage of. Read On Orwell and A Critical Read of Animal Farm.

[–] mamaboj@feddit.nl -1 points 39 minutes ago* (last edited 37 minutes ago) (1 children)

Oh yes, my friend, I knew someone would repeat me this soviet narrative. I urge you to read about Mr. Jones or watch a film about these events. Regarding gulags, it’s the same as telling me about concentration camps built by the Nazis. They also claimed it was just for labor, you know. I see you are well prepared with communist materials, it’s the same as entering communist class in the Soviet Union and expecting they will share the truth.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 35 minutes ago

No, now you're doing holocaust minimization by supporting Double Genocide Theory. Read Blackshirts and Reds.

[–] Erander@lemm.ee -2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Because no one who experienced it thought hmm is briliant, yeh nah, socialist policies are needed but not any form of totalitarian communism

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 hours ago

Most people actually preferred Socialism over modern Capitalism in post-Soviet states. Socialism works better than Capitalism, and was more democratic.