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[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Step 4 is a bit optimistic. Usually when I search something there are 30 products of what I specifically don't want before finding the single listing of what I do want.

Recent example. Needed a 8v 1A transformer
Searched AC to AC 8v 1A
Every listing on the first 3 pages were universal AC to DC adaptors that didn't have an 8v setting. the dials all went 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 12.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

also, all the search functions are deliberately broken so they can feed you algo slop instead of letting you find the product you want.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yes, e commerce sites which want revenue, developed a search that worked and then broke it to give you less relevant results, hoping you will go to the competition.

It is well known that companies have revenue. Line must not go up!

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

they broke it so they could sell you what THEY want to sell you, and hope you just settle for whatever that is. which is fine sometimes. I just want a cheap shitty table or a folding chair, that's a simple generic item, anything works, and they'll fuck me over a little on cost:quality.

sometimes you're looking for something really specific, and you just cannot find the page to add it to your fucking cart no matter how you search, despite knowing it exists, and sometimes even a manufacturer name and model number. a lot of times I bet people just make do with something that kinda works, or those lost sales are small in comparison to the increased profits from selling you advertised slop.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's been a long time since I worked on e-commerce but what you say makes no sense. Search is hard. Humans are unreliable. Data quality is shit, especially if you allow third party participation. It's hard enough to do it without shenanigans.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

they literally do things like remove search operators. you can't even search the names of items. you cant do a - or a "" or whatever on amazon.com. you used to be able to. there are a lot fewer on google than there used to be too; they removed them a long-ass time ago, but the shit I learned about advanced search in high school no longer exists. it's more profitable to just give you the slop they want you to have.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Google is not a shop. They do want you to click on ads, you are the product after all. They cater to their customers, the advertisers.

For Amazon, I don't remember that ever being supported. Even if it was, code needs to be maintained and if people didn't use it, it doesn't make sense to keep it. They have metrics for that.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't think corporations or capitalism work how you think they do, and I have no idea how someone can still think that way this far into the 21st century.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

By not living in the us, maybe? I don't know, I do just fine. Which my family in a communist country couldn't say.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

you act like being able to see and know the truth is beneficial. we live in a social structure built on fictions. generally validating those fictions, or doing violence upon reality to maintain them, is much more profitable than dealing with the real world on its own terms. the fictions of power metastasized into an odd cartesian duelism.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

one of us does. im not sure which.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

definitely not. certainly not the same one.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago
[–] aarch64@lemm.ee 4 points 5 days ago

You may have already figured this out, but a variac would fit the bill.