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[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 34 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

From the CBS article on this:

"If Putin decides not to support the push for a temporary ceasefire, it will dramatically alter the optics of the war and position Russia as the main obstacle to peace," Peter Dickinson from the Atlantic Council's UkraineAlert service, said in analysis Tuesday.

Who out there thinks anyone but Russia is the 'main obstacle to peace'? I don't even think that Russian bots believe they're not the aggressor. What the fuck happened to rationality or even common sense?

[–] NotLemming@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago
[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 13 points 9 hours ago

Who out there thinks anyone but Russia is the ‘main obstacle to peace’?

MAGA idiots.

[–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 10 points 9 hours ago

Who out there thinks anyone but Russia is the ‘main obstacle to peace’?

No one, I really hope. But either way this was a good move from Ukraine to throw the ball to the russians as now the orange guy is thrown in front of the bus with his "i'll end this war in a day" statement and global pressure is on Russia.

What the fuck happened to rationality or even common sense?

Very good question. Let me know too if you find the answer.

[–] Kamelot@social.vivaldi.net 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

@krashmo @Sunshine

"I don’t even think that Russian bots believe they’re not the aggressor."

You should watch street interviews in russia. They live on another planet. Out of touch with reality.
I would not be surprised by the bots being brainwashd, too.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I am sure there are true believers out there but I mean among the general population of other countries, especially reporters. I put about as much stock in interviews with average Russians as I do the North Korean equivalent. There's enough social pressure to conform that even those who disagree with the narrative are unlikely to say so on camera.

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Propaganda is such an unbelievably strong tool. Just look at the Western world with its seemingly unlimited access to information, knowledge and education and how easily people are convinced of some bullshit.

Russia was never a "free" country but stumbled from one autocracy into the next while the uneducated peasants stayed mostly uneducated peasants through the centuries.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

In retrospect, the "information age" should be renamed to the "disinformation age."