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I don't think we should compare everything socialist countries do to the US because the US is not the world. And I don't necessarily agree with Getty either, who is a liberal, and shows his liberal bias by even giving credence to it in the first place.

Furr proved conclusively that Kruschev was the one who played up Stalin's "cult" despite Stalin's reluctance. So Getty's argument is disproven here.

Perhaps the question you should ask yourself is, why would I believe socialist countries had cults of personality in the first place?

People like Ho Chi Minh, Kim Il Sung, Lenin/Stalin, Mao continue to be very influential to their countries and to the broader struggle. They literally led independence struggles and worked tirelessly for the people. Read into their biographies, the common thread you'll find is they all spent hours a day between shifts doing agitation, party work, educating themselves and others. And then when the conditions were right, using this base of support correctly to lead the struggle for independence.

Apparently to liberals recognizing these achievements and that these very human people worked selflessly is impossible. Nobody is truly selfless to the liberal and so they have to find some silly point to make up to tarnish their legacy. Kim Il Sung was apparently playing the long con of, uhhh, literally leading resistance against the Japanese at 21yo to the point that a company was eventually created tasked solely with hunting him down? He should've fucked off to Miami during the war like Rhee Syngman instead, and then get appointed president by John Foster Dulles, silly Kim.

And these are real people who died less than two generations ago. It's very, very recent history. Like, our grandparents could have met with Stalin or Mao. Literally when Koreans see a statue of Kim Il Sung they remember, oh shit, I could be living under Japanese occupation as a sex slave right now. But I fucking don't.

But we don't get any of that in the west because even in communist circles we don't have any figures to look up to to remind us that the struggle is protracted, and we all need to pull our weight, and it doesn't fall on just one person to do all that. So we point and laugh so that we don't have to look at our own legacy of failure in the past 100 years of "organizing".