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President Joe Biden highlighted his administration's economic record, citing consistent job growth and a 2.7% inflation rate drop from its 2022 peak.

December's jobs report showed 256,000 new jobs and declining unemployment, signaling steady economic growth.

However, inflation remains above the Federal Reserve's 2% target, and interest rates remain high, impacting homebuyers and businesses.

Public pessimism lingers on affordability as Biden passes a largely strong economy to his successor, Donald Trump.

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[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world -5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

What’s an example of Garland deferring to decorum?

Knowing full well decorum is not an option in organized crime.

It sounds like you’re saying Garland should’ve “gone rogue” or broken the law to take down Trump.

The same judicial system that gives Merrick Garland any authority has been corrupted with GOP picks that will rule in favor of Trump.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What’s an example of Garland deferring to decorum?

Not immediately starting the investigation into what happened on Jan 6th 2021 is unconscionable. The fact that it took him 2 years into Biden's term to even allow prosecution of the case out of fear that if it was done any sooner it might give the appearance of political retaliation means that Americans were denied timely justice.

Luigi Mangione shot a healthcare CEO in the back of the head and was in court by the end of the week.

Donald Trump committed the most brazen and public act of sedition ever and still walks free to this day, over 4 years later.

If you were to ask the founding fathers what they thought the most serious crimes in a free nation ought to be, they would have said treason, followed by murder. But we sure don't seem to fucking treat these two crimes with anywhere near the same severity.

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Not immediately starting the investigation into what happened on Jan 6th 2021 is unconscionable.

The investigation started immediately. The investigation had to complete before prosecution could start.

There were thousands of people involved with the January 6th insurrection. Each had their own case. Each case had its own witnesses and suspects and investigations. All this has to be managed while investigating the most powerful man in the country, Trump, owner of judges. This all had to finish before prosecution.

Why spread your misinformation?

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not misinformation.

The initial investigation by the FBI/DOJ specifically did not include Trump as a target. This was a purposeful omission, the justice department prioritized identifying and capturing 700 individuals who actually set foot in the capitol.

But as we all know, it's possible for the justice department to do more than one thing at a time. They could have opened the second investigation into Trump's involvement immediately, rather than waiting for all of the stooges to get plea deals. They didn't. Five minutes of Googling could have told you that Merrick Garland did not open an investigation into Trump's involvement (by appointing Special Council Jack Smith) until three days after Trump announced his intention to run for reelection in 2024. That was on November 18th 2022.

Make all the excuses you like for Garland, but he fucked us big time. The timing of the prosecution was extremely strategic and not coincidental. He waited until he knew that Trump would receive political cover in his reelection bid to start a real, earnest investigation. Republican swine looking out for one another.

Biden should have insisted that the investigation into Trump begin immediately. If he refused, can his ass and bring in someone with some teeth. Trump would be in prison right now if this had all begun in 2021.

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)
[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Trump was not a target of the DOJ investigation until 2022, so whatever investigations took place before then did not include Trump as a key suspect in any criminal proceedings.

Again, you are the one who is misinformed.

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I provided a source for my information. It comes with citations.

What’s the source for your claims?

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Brother, your source backs up my claim, but hey, here's another just in case. In the DOJ investigation related to Jan 6th (not the classified documents case), Trump was specifically NOT a target. The scope expanded in 2022 to also include DJT and his inner circle.

Meaning, of course, that for the first two years of Biden's presidency, they were not actively investigating Trump's role in inciting the mob that attacked the capitol, or his deliberate inaction when the situation became out of control and capitol police could not stop the mob from breaking into the congressional chambers.

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Here is your claim:

Trump was not a target of the DOJ investigation until *after* Jack Smith was brought on board

Here is what even your sources states:

the investigation had expanded to examine Donald Trump's inner circle, with the Justice Department impaneling several federal grand juries to investigate to investigate the attempts to overturn the election. Later in 2022, a special counsel (Jack Smith) was appointed.

Don’t you read your own sources?

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Okay, I edited my original post. I had the timeline slightly off in regards to which events took place and when, since both of those things occurred in 2022.

I consider your overall argument that Trump had been under investigation for January 6th from the very start to be thoroughly refuted at this point. It took two years for them to start - fact. Plenty of concrete evidence to back that claim up. Stop calling it misinformation.

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I consider your overall argument that Trump had been under investigation for January 6th from the very start to be thoroughly refuted at this point

Nope

On U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland's confirmation as attorney general, the DOJ opened multiple investigations into events during the closing weeks of the Trump presidency.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, okay? Already addressed that above. I don't feel like running around in circles with you. You are blocked.

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

It’s easier to block the truth than accept it.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A special counsel investigation was opened by U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland on November 18, 2022

That's not what "immediately" looks like.

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The immediate part is the section you left off:

to continue two investigations initiated by the Justice Department (DOJ) regarding former U.S. President Donald Trump

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Also not what immediately looks like.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Hooooooow is it obvious gaslighting?

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It sounds like you’re saying Garland should’ve “gone rogue” or broken the law to take down Trump>

Not in the least. He ignored the law and most importantly, justice, in the process of appearing apolitical. He waited forever to appoint Jack Smith, he didn't file charges for sedition or treason against any members of the Trump cabinet when it was obviously needed to at least bring details to light, he didn't go after any of Trump's kids (or Kushner) for illegal monetary gain when newspapers had plenty enough details to do so, and he let the Hunter Biden lawsuit continue after it was obvious they had no real cause. All in the process of appearing apolitical. Republicans would have had a hard time getting better outcomes from having one of their own lackeys in that position.

He doesn't just run the department of law and order, he runs the department of justice. And we got none of it during his tenure.

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago

He ignored the law and most importantly, justice, in the process of appearing apolitical.

What laws/justice did he ignore?

He waited forever to appoint Jack Smith

This was done as soon as there was a case.

he didn't file charges for sedition or treason against any members of the Trump cabinet when it was obviously needed to at least bring details to light

You can’t file charges without evidence especially just to “bring details to light”.

he didn't go after any of Trump's kids (or Kushner) for illegal monetary gain when newspapers had plenty enough details to do so

This investigation is still happening. Why are you claiming there is enough evidence based off of newspaper articles?

he let the Hunter Biden lawsuit continue after it was obvious they had no real cause

You want Garland to stop lawsuits now? Didn’t Hunter Biden lose that lawsuit and get found guilty?

He doesn't just run the department of law and order, he runs the department of justice. And we got none of it during his tenure.

We have never seen a president with 1 felony. Let alone all the felonies and laws Trump has broken. The DOJ wasn’t built to handle this.

The DOJ can’t just throw Trump in prison.

The same system that gives Merrick Garland power, gives Trump power.

Even if Garland was to ignore that and arrest Trump without due process like you’re suggesting. There would be another incident like January 6th with Trump followers storming whatever prison Trump is locked up in.