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[–] masquenox@lemmy.world -3 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Democracy isn’t a magic anti-fascist spell,

Yes it is, genius. THAT IS LITERALLY WHY IT WAS INVENTED.

If someone can convince enough of the population to elect them, ~~then they get into power, fascist or not.~~

If power is conveniently centralized for a fascist to take control of, Clyde, IT MEANS YOU NEVER HAD A DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY TO START OFF WITH.

By your definition, there really hasn’t been a blah, blah, blah....

How the fuck do you liberals get through the day with all this foaming, nuclear-level incoherence bouncing around inside your heads?

[–] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Democracy has existed far longer than fascism has... the earliest fascist movements weren't until the 1910s, while the earliest recorded democracy was around 508 BC, with the earliest recorded usage of the term in the 430s BC. You're wrong by a margin of millennia

My dear god, this is history fundamentals. And the sheer balls you've got to have to be that rude while being just this severely wrong is obscene.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world -2 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Democracy has existed far longer than fascism has…

And? Are you so utterly brain-addled as to believe that hierarchical violence was invented in the 20th century?

the earliest fascist movements weren’t until the 1910s,

Oh, right... for a minute there I almost forgot that liberals only call it "fascism" when the victims are white.

while the earliest recorded democracy was around 508 BC

So it was invented all that time ago, and you STILL don't have the foggiest idea what it actually is, eh?

That tracks, liberal.

My dear god, this is history fundamentals.

Again. How the fuck do you liberals get through the day with all this foaming, nuclear-level incoherence bouncing around inside your heads?

Seriously - I'd like to know.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

And? Are you so utterly brain-addled as to believe that hierarchical violence was invented in the 20th century?

You're the one who said that democracy was invented as a measure against fascism. Angrily throwing a lot of words around doesn't automatically result in a coherent argument.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago

You’re the one who said that democracy was invented as a measure against fascism.

Prove it.

[–] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

believe that hierarchical violence was invented in the 20th century

Well that's just not what I said - you specifically said fascism, which was invented in the 20th century. It has more specific characteristics than just hierarchical violence; ethno-nationalism, militarisation of the state, flexible suppression of opposition and centralised autocracy.

Just because you're mad about being corrected doesn't mean you need to be a dick about it.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago

you specifically said fascism

No I did not, genius. What you call "fascism" is merely the specific form that hierarchical violence takes in the liberal nation state.

Is something beginning to gel here for you?

which was invented in the 20th century.

Oh, really? Why doesn't all the mass-murder perpetrated by the liberal order in the colonised world count as "fascism" to you, Clyde?

Where the victims not white enough for you?

ethno-nationalism, militarisation of the state, flexible suppression of opposition and centralised autocracy.

Oh. So... bog-standard hierarchical violence, then?

Just because you’re

Again. How the fuck do you liberals get through the day with all this foaming, nuclear-level incoherence bouncing around inside your heads?

Seriously - I’d STILL like to know.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Americans are the most propagandized people on earth. That's why so many of them insist Russia is still communist, while another crop of them think Joe Biden is communist.

It's all media slop, in one ear and out the other.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago

Americans are the most propagandized people on earth.

Yeah. The responses on here certainly seems to bear that out.