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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 77 points 1 month ago (23 children)

The wealthiest own like 87% of the stock market, which both parties refer to as "the economy"...

So while I get how the thought of a general strike where we stop working is attractive.

But if we really want to hurt the rich, it means selling all your stocks and only buying the bare necessities. Leave them holding the bag on capitalism.

I've always thought the push for "average" Americans to get into stocks was just another way for wealth to trickle up. You're not savvy for buying what Nancy Pelosi bought a month ago, you're just pumping her numbers so she makes more when she sells.

The only way to win is not to play, but enough people need to refuse to play for it to work

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 41 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It was a travesty that pensions were largely replaced with 401ks in the 80's in the US (curious if a similar thing happened elsewhere in the world), effectively forcing participation in the stock market to have any chance at retirement.

They found another way to shore up the continuation and capitulation to capitalism while boosting their share prices at the sane time.

What an absolute con.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Well, to be fair pensions werent like cash reserves, they were investment funds.

Which is a different issue all together.

But that's how Bernie Madoff got so much, in addition to wealthy individuals he scammed the pension funds of major cities.

Shit didn't get fucked up overnight, it was a slow progression. Which is why we can't just roll back 50 years and pretend it's solved, shit will just fuck up again.

Edit:

And even when it was a cash reserve, it was basically tied to the stock of that company.

If they went bankrupt, no pension.

So say you got a Walmart pension, it was dependant on Walmart existing till you died. If a major player was dethroned, it meant a bunch of people losing pensions. So there was still a lot of institutional momentum even back then

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Which is why we can’t just roll back 50 years and pretend it’s solved, shit will just fuck up again.

Capitalism

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