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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

To the absolute shock of all the people praising Luigi as the ultimate solution: nothing has changed.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Because work needs to be systemic. Not one-time adventure, but every tuesday in the morning.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

You can kill an infinite number of people across all of time, but it's not going to change the fact that profit exists to be made. The only solution is legislative. We have to vote DNC, like we did in 2010, but instead of stopping at 58 we need to get to 60. Only then will there be progressive reform with no compromise.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe -1 points 4 days ago

You're gross and you enable grosser people

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

you've had 60. it doesn't matter. what you need is to vote local and in primaries. you can't keep letting the party establishment rot take hold and hope it will lead to change in the general elections.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

you’ve had 60

When was that?

[–] pyre@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

when Obama was elected. democrats had the presidency, the house and senate, with a supermajority. guess what they did with it: dick.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] pyre@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

yeah really, idk whay that is but a table only gives you a snapshot. 111th congress I believe had at one time majorities in both houses, and a 60-40, including the democratic caucusing independents.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

But when the 111th congress voted on Public Option Healthcare it came up 1 vote short because the Caucusing Independent Joe Liebermen voted Nay alongside every republican.

They effectively didn't have 60, despite the caucus.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (2 children)

yeah that's exactly my point, hence my original comment about general election majority not meaning anything without voting for actual progressives if not leftists in primaries

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Your point seems to contradict your earlier point

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

it doesn't, i repeated the same thing. you can't vote harder in general elections to make change without voting local and in primaries for actual progressives first. let's see if someone gets confused again so I can rephrase the same thing a fourth time

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Every DNC voted Yay for actual progressive policy.

I'm saying we need to put 60 of them in the Senate, and you made some stupid point about how 58 of them is basically 60.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

that's distinction without difference. Bernie is independent, Sinema and Manchin were democrats. getting democratic seats no matter who it is won't change anything.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

LITERALLY WAS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SINGLE PAYER AND THE ACA

1 INDEPENDENT VOTE

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

it wasn't because he's independent. it's because he's joe fucking lieberman, obama's best bud... again, Sinema and Manchin were democrats. they still fucked over progressives.