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'Very troubling': Leader of 'Abandon Harris' movement now anxious about Trump appointees
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It's weird people are blaming the ones who didn't vote...
Obviously, if they voted trump, blame them away.
But it's like people don't realize how big of an ask it was to have people to vote for a genocide, especially when it's against the country someone came from and their family is still there.
If Kamala would have won, trying to criticize her would have worked as well as criticizing Biden on Israel the last four years. Any criticism would be met with "Trump would be worse".
With trump in charge, people will (rightfully) call out American support of a genocide as wrong. So while trump will undoubtedly make shit worse. Him being president means the Dem party will criticize him, and be more left in 2028.
If Kamala had won, she and the party would have moved more to the right in 2028. Just look at what happened after 4 years as VP. The few parts of her 2020 platform people liked, she moved to the right on.
The genocide of Palestinians didn't start two years ago, it's been going on for 70 years. It makes sense they're thinking long term rather than only focuses on the "now" and voting for a lesser evil that maintains the status quo that is a genocide.
If you want someone to blame, it seems like the blame should be on the "left" candidate that ignored everyone actually on the left and became bff's with Liz Cheney. Not the people that understand when a Republican wins, we get a primary which even when the party pick wins, the primary pulls them left. Even if it's just lies to win the primary, as long as they keep the lies up, it helps in the general because voters want Dems to move left.
Without a primary, the chosen candidate takes the left for granted and moved right. In this case if Kamala won, we wouldn't have another option in 2028 either, it would be 2032 before the next real primary.
Like...
I just don't see how someone could blame anyone except the candidate, her campaign team, and the DNC.
They're the ones that prevented a real primary, and that made the campaign platform that alienated lifelong Dem voters in hopes of gaining republican voters who wouldn't be caught dead voting for a Dem.
It obviously failed, and the media is desperate to blame anything other than the stuff their billionaire owners bribed the Dems to support.
They'll never ever say the problem was a Dem is too "fiscally conservative" because they're the ones paying neoli eral candidates to pretend that's a good move for the average American
Fun fact: if you're not actively against neofascists, you are with them, and everything you say to justify sitting at their table should and will be considered insincere vaporing. It really blows that other people are going to suffer when you get what's coming to you. I feel bad for them. I better not hear so much as a sigh out of you, since you're getting what you wanted, what you knew would happen, and what you chose.
Hear Hear! Thank you for taking the time to voice the opinion of many. We should never relent and keep shining a light on these idiots and their moronic reasoning. They chose to not vote, vote jill stein or vote trump (all the same thing) and then want to reason about it? Justify it? They chose, they chose clearly and they knew what they did. Never let these fascist wannabees off the hook.
If you are so concerned with 3rd party voters, you should be working tirelessly to replace First past the post voting in your state.
That way, people could vote how they want and still have their vote count against those they don't want in office.
Or maybe you just enjoy telling others how to vote. So which is it, are you working to replace FPTP voting or are you against democracy?
I do not seek or want to tell others how to vote. I just look at the results and the people abstaining or voting trump or voting 3rd party should accept what they did: elect donald trump.
Just admit it, these people (possibly you as well?) fucked america over and the consequences will be dire. But accepting responsibility and acknowledging these people know what they did seems out of the question for some reason. It seems they rather would argue someone else did this, just as you seem to do. It's always someone else who 'blocks' you in doing the right thing. Now there are scores of people left in uncertainty and quite possibly face a horrendous time while the fascist is in office.
My message to people who made this choice: don't mope and moan, accept what you did and live with the outcome of your choices and what they will do to part of society who will not be able to defend themselves.
Imagine that, helping elect that fascist and then complain you had no other choice so hey, fuck all the vulnerable people who will suffer because of it, not my problem.
And now wanting to hide under the umbrella of righteousness because 'you had to make a stand', also hating that people point out that what you did was morally questionable. It has to mess with your head I imagine and what better defense is there then attack and blame others?