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‼️ "Notes of Private Jong." Part 2: "Using Live Bait"

In the notebook of a North Korean special forces operative neutralized in the Kursk region, he detailed a method for luring Ukrainian drones using live bait.

Before his encounter with Ukrainian Special Operations Forces (SOF) operators, Private Gyeong Hong Jong outlined tactics for downing UAVs and evading Ukrainian artillery in his notebook.

It is unclear whether this strategy originates from authentic North Korean military doctrine or was taught to them by Russians. However, the tactic relies on using live bait.

Here is the full transcription of another entry from the captured notebook, secured in the Kursk region by SOF operators. The entry is accompanied by illustrations drawn by the North Korean SOF soldier:

"How to neutralize a drone."

Upon spotting a drone, form a trio (3 people). The person baiting the drone maintains a distance of 7 meters, while the shooters position themselves 10-12 meters away.

If the bait person remains stationary, the drone will also stop its movement. At this moment, the shooter should eliminate the drone.

"How to avoid artillery fire."

If caught in an artillery strike zone, designate a regrouping point for the team, then scatter into small groups and exit the strike zone.

Another method: since artillery rarely hits the same location twice, hide in a previously targeted spot before moving out of the strike zone.


The Ukrainian SOF continues to eliminate North Korean special forces operatives in Russia's Kursk region.

While we continue to decode the captured notes of Private Jong, you can read the first part of his notebook here. Stay tuned for more.

https://t.me/ukr_sof/1326

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[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The overwhelming majority of footage I’ve seen from this war has been HE exploding at ground level, DPICM or self propelled guns are the only cases that I’ve seen evidence of programming/timing being done by gun crews.

M777 and Caesar were cheaper and more effective because both could set up quickly, fire several shells and then be gone in about a minute or two. That was quick enough to avoid counterbattery fire

They aren’t hanging around, getting feedback and adjusting fires - setup, shoot, and go. The PzHs are rare and valuable, most of what you’ll see is M777 and Caesar/Bohdana, or towed Soviet leftovers in rear areas.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

It's not that kind of thing. You set the fuse with a wrench when you get the fire mission call. As low tech as could be in the field. The FO sends the call in and either requests a fuse or describes the target and lets the battery decide the fuse. Infantry in the open is always airburst and there are videos of that being used, most recently against the North Korean troops who actually did try to just lay down to avoid it.

Entrenched infantry uses ground burst or air burst depending on what effect you want. You can destroy mines and fortifications or try to catch infantry in the open top areas with airburst. Vehicles are likewise ground detonation because you're trying to track or marry a 155 shell to the top of a vehicle.

This all without discussing proximity fuses that go off at waist height. Their purpose is to use over pressure and an impact sheaf to kill everyone in a 30-300 meter by 20-100 meter rectangle.

And again this is set with a wrench right before you load the round, so no adjusting fire or anything is necessary.

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 4 points 19 hours ago

And here I am arguing under a misapprehension about airburst for arty being the same ‘flying shotgun’ kinetic submunition shrapnel the British developed before WW1, or the later flechettes, instead of the 2-10 meter HE burst height used nowadays…

Thanks for the info, I have some more reading to do clearly about contemporary gunnery methods and sheafs v beaten zones