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He generally shows most of the signs of the misinformation accounts:

  • Wants to repeatedly tell basically the same narrative and nothing else
  • Narrative is fundamentally false
  • Not interested in any kind of conversation or in learning that what he’s posting is backwards from the values he claims to profess

I also suspect that it’s not a coincidence that this is happening just as the Elon Musks of the world are ramping up attacks on Wikipedia, specially because it is a force for truth in the world that’s less corruptible than a lot of the others, and tends to fight back legally if someone tries to interfere with the free speech or safety of its editors.

Anyway, YSK. I reported him as misinformation, but who knows if that will lead to any result.

Edit: Number of people real salty that I’m talking about this: Lots

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[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It’s good to identify bad actors

Couldn’t agree more.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Then why are you trying to be cute and not call out the username (or usernames if they are using alts)? This doesn't identify jack, just says that someone exists doing something nonspecifically bad towards wikipedia.

As important as Wikipedia is, there are a ton of legitimate problems with the site and community moderators. Some of the drama that comes out of there is downright otherworldly. Without examples it's hard to take what you're saying seriously.

Edit: Either there's enough direct screenshotted evidence that this needs to be a specific call for admins to ban this person, or this just comes across as absurd escalation of some stupid internet debate.

Second edit: it's wikipediasuckscoop

Do we really need a warning for someone so obviously biased? Next you'll be warning us that madthumbs might have some reservations about the usefulness of linux.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think it’s useful to talk about. I’m not sure why so many people are coming out lecturing me that this should be a forbidden topic for discussion.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

a forbidden topic for discussion.

I'm not getting that from the responses. What I've seen is

  • being vague is not effective
  • bad opinions aren't the same as objective misinformation
  • the username checks out
  • it's pointless to platform these people

These all seem to reiterate the idea that "this is not a good post" and not "this subject is taboo".

But, if you're messing this up, does that jeopardize your own efforts?

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I've literally seen no one say that it's forbidden. Maybe one of the comment chains from someone I already have blocked does, but there's only ~~four~~ two of those.

I see plenty of people saying this is a stupid post. A post that is uselessly vague. A post that is almost entirely purposeless.

I understand wanting to avoid brigading, but as it stands this post amounts to "You all should know that I reported someone (I won't say who, tee hee) for posting something that I think is misinformation about Wikipedia (I won't say what, tee hee). It's really bad, but you'll just have to take my word for it. This person I won't name is just the worst. You need to know they're the worst. But you don't need to know who they are or what they said, that's not important! Also I have vague consipiratorial feelings about anyone who would speak ill of Wikipedia after Musk said bad things about it, because no one could possibly have grievances or concerns with Wikipedia that are still valid despite Musk's derangement."


If you wanted to spread awareness, you should have named the problem user. If you wanted to force the admins into action you should have named the problem user.

If you are willing to give the admins time to handle things properly, especially during the fucking holidays where they likely have other things to do, instead of needlessly raising an alarm on something pitifully small... then you should have waited a few days for them to do something before running off to play vigilante with this post.

If you want to make people waste time trying to evaluate if you're a nutter, thin skinned, or otherwise blowing smoke... you make a post like this one.

Either you had enough evidence to make this warning/call out post legitimately, and then you make it with names, screenshots, and fucking receipts... or you give admins time to respond and sit until they show they won't do something.

This weak, vague post just says that you're too impatient to let the admins work, you don't trust them to do what you think is the right thing, but you're also chickenshit that they might ban you for talking about it. Rather than post this from a throwaway made on another instance you make this useless thing.


TL;DR- People are telling you that this attempt to "warn" people is worthless without actionable info.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 5 points 2 days ago

6 different people have reported my post, so presumably they think it should be forbidden, at least.

Hundreds of people have upvoted this post, so presumably they think it’s a worthwhile post. You are welcome to your opinion that it isn’t, of course.