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He generally shows most of the signs of the misinformation accounts:

  • Wants to repeatedly tell basically the same narrative and nothing else
  • Narrative is fundamentally false
  • Not interested in any kind of conversation or in learning that what he’s posting is backwards from the values he claims to profess

I also suspect that it’s not a coincidence that this is happening just as the Elon Musks of the world are ramping up attacks on Wikipedia, specially because it is a force for truth in the world that’s less corruptible than a lot of the others, and tends to fight back legally if someone tries to interfere with the free speech or safety of its editors.

Anyway, YSK. I reported him as misinformation, but who knows if that will lead to any result.

Edit: Number of people real salty that I’m talking about this: Lots

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[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 105 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, there’s kind of a Poe’s Law situation.

A lot of the sincere tankies, though, at least want to talk about what they’re into, and have elaborate reasons why it’s all true. The low-effort “I can’t even be bothered to try to mount a defense, I just wanted to say Wikipedia is doxing its users and kowtowing to fascist governments, and now that I’ve said it my task is done” behavior is a little more indicative of a disingenuous propaganda account in my experience.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 65 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

elaborate reasons why it’s all true

Usually it's "just read these 10 hundred-year-old books" that they absolutely have not read.

And if you ask them to make a point from those books, they can't. Apparently they're only comprehensible as a whole.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 34 points 1 day ago

This is an excellent suggestion for how to deal with this. I can’t thank you enough.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's now poe's law, it would be Occam's razor.

The most likely scenario here is not many puppet accounts spreading sarcasm or parody but rather that there are many actors that all true believers in what they are all saying. They sound the same because they are feeding off the same talking point.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

You’re right, I was misremembering Poe’s law. We need a law for “there is no point of view so idiotic that someone won’t be out there passionately proclaiming it, not because they are a propaganda troll, but because they really believe it.”

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

That sounds like the Dunning Kruger Effect.