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Dear Linux community,

In these unpredictable and often challenging times, I feel it’s more important than ever to pause and share heartfelt wishes. Merry Christmas to each and every one of you!

Let this holiday season be a moment of peace, where you can step back, breathe, and find some calm amidst the chaos. Take the opportunity to reconnect, reflect, and perhaps even find inspiration for the year ahead.

May your days be filled with joy, your systems stay secure, and your kernels remain stable. Here's to a festive season full of positivity and open-source spirit!

Warm wishes,

Your fellow penguin at heart.

P.S.: I had very little time, so the whole thing, was AI accelerated! Please forgive me :-)

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[–] fool@programming.dev 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Sorry for the wall of text again c:

(CLICK HERE FOR BIG WALL)

AI text as a whole is usually structured, neutral-positive to positive shallowness. It's called slop because it's easy to make a lot of substanceless, nutrientless goo. One common structure is

Introduction

Since the dawn of time, ethics has been important.

AI Structure: Hidden Secrets Revealed

  1. Being considerate: Being considerate can help relationships.
  2. This structure: is untrustworthy. Be suspicious when you see it.
  3. Lots of broad statements: that don't say anything—often with em-dashes.

Conclusion

In conclusion, while ethics can be hard, it is important to follow your organizations guidelines. Remember, ethics isn't just about safety, but about the human spirit.

What do we spot? Sets of three, largely perfect/riskless formal grammar (grammar perfection is not inhuman -- but a human might, say, take the informal risk of using lotsa parentheses (me...)), uncreative colon titles, SEO-style intros and conclusions, an odd corporate-style ethics hangup, em-dashes (the long —), and some of the stuff in that reddit link I mentioned are often giveaways.

Here's some examples in the wild:

  • Playing Dumb: How Arthur Schopenhauer Explains the Benefits of Feigned Ignorance. PeopleAndMedia. has useless headings and the colon structure I mentioned. There's also phrases like "Let's delve" and "unexpected advantage" -- ChatGPT likes pretending to be unconventional and has specific diction tics like "Here's to a bright future!" One interesting thing is that the article uses some block quotes and links -- this is rare for AI.

  • Why is PHP Used. robots.net. This is from a "slop site", one that is being overrun by AI articles. Don't read the whole thing, it's too long. Skim first. See how many paragraphs start with words like "additionally", "moreover", "furthermore", like a grade school English lit student? Furthermore (lol), look at the reasonings used:

    The size of the PHP developer community is a testament to the language’s popularity and longevity.

    PHP boasts a large and vibrant developer community that plays a pivotal role in its continued success and widespread adoption.

    ChatGPT-esque vocabulary is used (this is something you unfortunately get a feel for), and the reasoning isn't very committal. Instead of evaluating some specific event deeper, the article just lists technologies and says stuff like "PHP has comprehensive and well-maintained documentation, providing in-depth explanations, examples, and guides." So what if there's docs? Everyone has documentation. Name something PHP docs do better or worse. Look at this paragraph (SKIM IT, don't read deeply):

    CodeIgniter is known for its simplicity and speed. It is a lightweight framework that prioritizes performance and efficiency. CodeIgniter’s small footprint makes it suitable for small to medium-sized projects where speed is crucial. It provides essential features and a straightforward structure that allows developers to build applications quickly and efficiently.

    It doesn't actually SAY ANYTHING despite its length. The paragraph can be compressed to: "CodeIgniter has a light footprint". It doesn't even say whether we're talking about comparative speed, memory usage, or startup time. It's like they paid someone (openAI) to pad word count on the ensmallening I mentioned.

Before reading something, check the date. If it's after 2020, skims to be too long and not very deep, and has too many GPT tics (tricolons, vocab like "tapestry/delve", the SEO shit structure), then it's AI slop. Some readers actively avoid post-2020 articles but I can't relate.

edit: clarified that perfect grammar is humanly doable, but GPT-style riskless formal grammar is still distinct from grammatical human text

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

the term "riskless grammar" perfectly puts into words how i felt about chatgpt's texts, every human-written text has something "wrong" with it grammar-wise, except maybe example essays by english teachers.

As an example, my previous paragraph has a lowercase I, too many commas, sentences compressed by using hyphens where they probably shouldnt go and probably some other stuff i missed.

But it still read well, at least i hope.

Most authors write their sentences their own way, and in my opinion, that's what makes reading their books interesting. Perfect grammar is boring and no fun to read.

as a fun experiment, i asked chatgpt to rewrite my first paragraph:

"The phrase "riskless grammar" accurately captures my impression of ChatGPT's texts. Unlike human-written content, which often contains grammatical imperfections—except perhaps for example essays by English teachers—ChatGPT's writing maintains a level of precision and correctness."

Kind of changed the meaning to be self-complimenting, which is funny.

edit: Normally I would have rewritten parts of this comment to make my point more clearly and be better to read, but i wanted to keep my first draft to make my point a bit better.

[–] fool@programming.dev 1 points 17 hours ago

Ty for feedback :>

Your paragraph read well. I definitely agree -- grammar with risks, outside of hyper-formal sitches, is just stylized diction. ChatGPT could scarcely come up with an e.e. cummings poem (just tested now, it never gets the style about right), nor dare to abuse parentheses, nor remove cruft for conciseness (e.g. to start a sentence with "Kind of changed" instead of "This kind of changes" for compression (woot)). It's a "wrong" but not quite "wrong", and I'm glad that "riskless" manages to carry that feeling

And I edit a lot too :) it's the "post-email-send clarity" effect

[–] apostrofail@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Errors can give away that a human typed something, but knowing proper grammar, spelling, and syntax of English is totally neutral—if not to be somewhat expected from a native speaker/typer with a lifetime to learn the language they speak (especially if we consider how many Anglophones are monolingual + educated + have access to technology like spell check meaning there is little excuse for not having English mastery).

In my education, I got a public apology from a teacher letting the class know they tried to dig up proof of plagiarism in my persuasive papers, but for the first time proved themself incorrect on a plagiarism hunch. Humans are capable of writing well.

[–] fool@programming.dev 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

edit: updated accordingly for clarity

Ah, I mean proper grammar as in formal, largely riskless grammar. For example, AI wouldn't connect

monolingual + educated + have access to technology

with pluses, like a human would.

Not sure how I'd phrase that though. Maybe "perfect, risklessly formal grammar" as I just tried to call it? (i.e. if AI trainers consider using +'es a "risk", as opposed to staying formal and spick n' span clean).

Perfect grammar is humanly possible but there is some scrutiny that can be applied to GPT-style grammar, especially in the context of the casually-toned web (where 100%ed grammar isn't strictly necessary!).