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[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 40 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Whenever I develop on Windows, I just use the built in Linux.

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 12 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I got a Mac at work because the Linux on Mac didn't suck as much as the Linux on windows (docker).

My 8 years old mid range PC beats both to dust on development using the Linux on Linux, but somehow the bosses don't value my time.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago

it's not that they don't value your time, it's that they value security compliance checklists over productivity.

in the same boat myself. Told them the same. practicality begged them to allow me to use docker otherwise tasks would balloon from an hour to complete to literal days.

after two weeks of discussion they finally relented. Probably cost the company $50-70k in those two weeks in salaries alone when you include the entire dev team, IT, security, compliance, and mgmt.

it's amazing that this shitshow called capitalism is still functioning.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Technically the "Linux on Mac" is Unix based and not Linux, but I agree the dev experience is nicer on my Mac than Windows given the choice. Also rather than docker you can use the WSL stuff on Windows for a much closer to normal Linux dev setup (with a few weird edges).

I end up regularly using all three OSes, so it's helpful you can finally get a serviceable dev environment on any of the common non-mobile OSes now.

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I meant using a linux VM to run docker (With Rancher Desktop).

WSL started eating RAM like if there's was no tomorrow for no reason, even when idle. And considering we had to run memory and cpu intensive tasks, that was a big problem. Several colleges saw the same issue and we all ended up moving to Mac for that reason (well, some of them just because "shiny").

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Oh yeah, I'd say Windows in general just chomps through RAM, but there has been some times that WSL takes it to chrome-like levels

[–] Michal@programming.dev 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The "built-in Linux" is a VM.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 13 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I'm aware, though there's some nice integration stuff that means you can run GUI applications and share the file system

Interesting fact WSLv1 was actually not a VM and it was the NT kernel speaking POSIX

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 4 points 14 hours ago

And this is why the WSL1 filesystem was so damn slow. WSL2 uses a native ext4 filesystem (usually, you can format it to whatever)

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 points 14 hours ago

Same, luarocks just does not work properly on windows.