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[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Does it really matter that much? I figure either way they're going to get you if they want and the media will treat it like a suicide regardless of how much you publicly telegraph what's going to happen ahead of time.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Yes of course it matters. If he wasn't lying and acting like an insane criminal for a decade or so, people would be inclined to believe him.

The guy acted like people with your same thought process could magically absolve him of his crimes and lies because he made a wild claim that he would be killed. He hadn't said a goddamned thing for years pertaining to himself that was true. He was a lunatic and a murderer (rapist too iirc?). It makes all the sense in the world he would be lying about expecting to be killed too

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

directly and firmly state that, for the record, you are not suicidal and that if you should die, it was absolutely not suicide.

He did exactly what was suggested here. It was ignored and dismissed in all mainstream coverage of his death, and you are also dismissing it as a lie, with no specific evidence other than his apparently otherwise questionable character. It's naive to think that such a narrative wouldn't also be applied to anyone else trying to defend themselves in this way, of course it would be.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I watched a documentary about the guy which turned out to be mostly about the bizarre lies he told. He was a fucking nutcase, devoid of reasons of ever consider believing his horseshit. And he liked fucking underage women so much he fled countries that didn't let him do that. Insane scumbags don't make my sympathy list but apparently you're looking for opps to defend them so congrats

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm arguing that saying you won't kill yourself and are likely to be assassinated is not a foolproof method, not defending Mcafee

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

And I'm saying that him acting like a lunatic and literally lying dozens of times publicly destroyed his credibility, not "the media". The documentary does a great job of treating him fairly but most things he said ended up being baseless or false.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I just don't think that's something that's reasonable to by default expect people to be lying about, even if they are known not to be credible, and it definitely isn't a detail that's ever appropriate to omit entirely from coverage of someones death. If that's the attitude towards it then getting away with "suiciding" someone in terms of public opinion has a pretty low barrier for success.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's a reasonable thing to think that a paranoid drug addict would be saying shit like that for the attention alone. Kinda interesting that this could be controversial imo

He was a mentally ill drug addicted criminal. Kinda obvious that's not a reliable source of info no matter the topic.

If you saw the documentary you'd see he did a lot of weird things to get attention and everyone who worked with him or knew him seemed to agree with that assessment