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[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

60,000 Americans die every year because of the insurance industry, but how many oligarchs were brought to justice? How many oligarchs were arrested for raping children on Epstein's island? How many oligarchs were arrested for funding Israel's genocide of Gaza? How many oligarchs were arrested for the massive tax evasion revealed from the Panama papers???

Justice that only punches down is not justice. If our system will not hold the wealthy accountable for their crimes against humanity then our system is utterly rotten

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Everything you said is true, but it doesn't really contradict my point.

The current system is terrible, but it's better than having a jury of laypeople make up the law based on the vibe of the case.

I look forward to hearing your suggestions for a better judicial system.

[–] exploitedamerican@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A better judicial system, one where it implicitly illegal for those with money to receive preferential treatment. And one where victimless crimes built on abstract ideals of abstinence only moralism dont ruin the lives of marginalized people while wealthy privileged individuals engage in these same behaviors with impunity, and one where qualified immunity isn't grossly abused to avoid consequence for a militarized police force and portray a fantasy image tjat police generally always have a pristine moral compass and aren't just flawed human beings with a propensity to abuse their power in a system with so many unjust laws that are designed to favor those with privilege and wealth.

How about just that for starters and i will get back to you for any further improvements.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This sounds like a very just system but how can it be achieved? How would you restructure the existing system to achieve these outcomes?

The comment I originally responded to suggested that juries could just dispense justice based on the vibe of the case before them. IMO such a system would be more or less guaranteed to fail to produce any of the outcomes on your list.

[–] exploitedamerican@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Considering its apparent that those with massive amounts of capital have hijacked the system, if you you look at the wall street war profiteering industrialists relationships with our DOD, as well as every branch of our government and historical events such as the business plot, nixon shock and 8 years of the Regan administration i think its evident we live in a fascist authoritarian police state that works to violently suppress any leftist policy that Benefits working people. We have no left party in the US only a far right and center right. violent tactics are regularly used against peaceful demonstrators so anyone with a brain knows the system will use whatever tools are at its disposal to thwart change. So luigi seems to have said the quiet part out loud if he is indeed the perpetrator of the acts he allegedly committed.

So there is really only one option besides violent revolution and thats a massive general strike. If at least 25% of the labor force refused to produce labor for as long as was needed to get demands met then that could work but i feel even that will be met with violence and martial law. So that puts us back to square one / the drawing board