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[–] ErsatzCoalButter@beehaw.org 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't BS people with this. Asylum sucks like jail and countries within reach aren't going to offer it.

The actual "only options" involve large amounts of money and/ or abandoning your social standing. These are more realistic than asylum.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Losing social standing is implied. The options are:

  • Shallow grave
  • Being hunted
  • Jail
  • Undocumented
  • Asylum <-- better than / worse than
  • Working abroad
  • Vacation
  • Large amounts of money

Maybe you think "asylum = jail", I don't think that. Based on historical precedent, jail is more likely to lead to a shallow grave than asylum.

[–] ErsatzCoalButter@beehaw.org 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You are right about jail being likely to lead to a shallow grave but would you share more about what you think Asylum is like? I have lots of 1st hand experience around jails but none around asylum, I just know asylum seekers who have compared it to jail.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Asylum is living legally in a country, it ranges all the way from homelessness to a penthouse. You may be thinking of "waiting for asylum", at the equivalent of concentration camps. Not every asylum seeker has to go through that, for example people from Ukraine in the EU got a fast-tracked refugee status:

https://unric.org/en/ukraine-over-6-million-refugees-spread-across-europe/

[–] ErsatzCoalButter@beehaw.org 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm not Ukranian, I can't benefit from that. HBU?

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 2 points 5 days ago

As I said:

At some point, some countries will start granting asylum to US refugees.

I'm a EU citizen. Some people want to copy the US, but we're still at the "trying to stop them" phase, not at the "impending doom" phase.