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[–] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 31 points 6 days ago (4 children)

In 2016 I thought That's it, the US is headed for a civil war 2.0 in the next 10 years. I don't believe that now because no one seems to be doing anything to resist this destruction of democracy by the silicon valley billionaires.

Move fast and break things will be easy for them if nobody even tries to slow them down.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 6 days ago

I guessed back when the patriot act was signed after 9/11 that we’d have a fascist dictatorship by 2025. Well….

I really wish my ability to see patterns applied to seeing winning lottery numbers :(

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

you were too early in your predictions: trump is going to be pushed out in favor of vance and musk is going to vp.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Assuming they don’t throw away the constitution that their base likes to jerk off too, how would musk qualify? He’s not American born. That and being over 35 are pretty much the only requirements.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

they won't throw away the constitution; they'll modify it and a whole range of laws and rules that will enable musk and a bunch of other things that will become permanent from now on.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Can’t modify the constitution without a convention, a constitutional convention needs 2/3 of the states to agree to the changes IIRC, that’s why there hasn’t been an amendment passed in a very long time.

Assuming they follow the rule of law, which they likely won’t.

[–] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The supreme court can just reinterpret the rules for them.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

can implies will because they always do whatever they can to support their very partisan agenda.

Independent judiciary, my ass.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

that's project 2025's primary stated goal and it looks realistic right now since republicans already have the needful majorities in levers of government in all of the branches and the states.

the equal rights amendment was passed in 2020; so it's definitely possible.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I’m pretty damn cynical but I’d be surprised if they could pull of a constitutional convention.

I actually think it’s more likely my state would secede than a constitutional convention being successful. Especially if we end up in a tariff war with Canada and Quebec hydro shuts off power to us…

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

my state would secede than a constitutional convention being successful

that's both our only hope and the mostly likely avenue of attack since we're on track be only 3 states away (at best) from republican control in 2026.

the divide between the republican and democrat states is going to mirror the presidential election electoral college if the democrats don't get their act together and i'm pessimistic that they will since the party's leadership continues to insist that they lost because they went too woke and doubled down when they blocked aoc from the oversight committee position a couple of days ago.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Oh the democrats did not learn a goddamn thing from 2016 let alone 2024.

I know it sounds completely crazy, and it is completely crazy, but I think there’s a damn good chance my state will secede if Canada shuts off our electric. Especially if they do that in the winter. I now have it on my utterly batshit insane what could go wrong 2025 bingo card.

The other thing that might make us secede is if they try fucking with our state constitutional right to abortion. If both happen, I think we will secede. Maybe join Quebec or maybe become our own spot of Canada or maybe be fully independent like we were before the United States existed.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

that's not crazy at all relative to the TRULY crazy part: democrat voters can see what they did to aoc and what the leadership is saying about going too woke (among MANY other things); but they're still going to vote for them anyways in 2028.

i think the bitterest pill to swallow is that it's going to work because the leadership (ie pelosi) is doing everything in their power to prevent the status quo from changing and will take all the blame with them when they finally retire next year or the year after that so that the new party leadership can look squeaky clean to their voters.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They’re never retiring. They’ll prop up their dead corpses to hold onto power.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

and democrats will keep voting for them anyways because they're the "adults" in the room. lol

[–] TheRedSpade@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Trump doesn't qualify either. Their base only cares about the 1st amendment (when it's their speech) and the 2nd when it comes to owning guns (to hell with the "well regulated" bit). They don't even know what any other parts of the constitution say.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

It says nothing about being a felon 🤷🏻‍♀️

Also learn to not shit on the second amendment:

Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary - Karl Marx

[–] TheRedSpade@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The 14th disqualifies insurrectionists.

Not sure how my comment could be taken to be shitting on the 2nd

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago

Trump was never found guilty of insurrection because the biden admin slow walked the case, and then he won the presidency, ending it for good.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago

More like a decay into a shadow of itself like the Byzantine empire.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Yeah I think playing it slow is part of the strategy.

You can't just take ownership of a country, you need to make people want to give it to you.