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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So... About 2010? When Android phones became widespread.

[–] ancientweasel@social.fossware.space 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] TheEntity@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some would say desktops are not really consumer hardware anymore. Unfortunately. Sent from my useless black rectangle.

[–] ancientweasel@social.fossware.space 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Androis uses linux, but that does not make it a Desktop Linux. It's not invalid, just out of scope to this metric. It's pretty simple.

[–] TheEntity@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I'm not arguing this part at all, I agree with you.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly whatever Linux Distro takes over will almost certainly be an Android or ChormeOS style bastardization where you can certainly see the lineage but it's so locked down and so far removed from the userland and tooling we expect that the whole point of "year of the Linux desktop" is lost

[–] FunkyClown@lemmy.fail 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes and no. MacOS is basically the year of the Unix desktop for a while now and it’s still powerful and user friendly. Just fire up a terminal and it’s Unix. The benefit they have is hardware control so stuff just works and no driver hardware issues etc…

[–] const_void@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree. Linux is great when one has the time but not the money.

However for a system that just works - MacOS is one of the best bsd distros of all time esp on arm.

Sadly MacOS also comes with the downfalls of a closed and proprietary ecosystem.

[–] dpflug@hachyderm.io 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@const_void
Have you used Linux lately? It really doesn't take any more time than anything else.
@FunkyClown

[–] const_void@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, I have yet to have a zero-config experience even on vertical (but open) platforms like RasberryPi. What has been your experience?

GPU, Sound, WiFi Day 0 / 1 / 365 are not yet on par with MacOS or Win11, for me, anyway.

For me, it is important to recognize there is a larger time investment, otherwise how does it get better?

[–] dpflug@hachyderm.io 1 points 1 year ago

@const_void
Certainly, let's look for more ways to improve, but I've not had a need to fiddle with hardware configs in a while.

I count 2 personal laptops, a desktop, and a couple RasPis that just worked for me. One laptop had suspend issues in Windows that went away with Linux, which surprised the hell out of me.

My work laptop (Windows 11) needed GPU drivers reinstalled and increasingly acts up with docking and suspend.

Maybe I've lucked into good hardware or something.

[–] FunkyClown@lemmy.fail 1 points 1 year ago

I have on servers as I run my own lemmy server. I do like Linux desktop but macOS just works for my work and home laptop.

[–] Whayle@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I remember Dell had an option back in 2013 on the XPS laptops...

I bought one in 2022.

[–] tal@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

https://www.amazon.com/android-laptop-computer/s?k=android+laptop+computer

1-16 of over 1,000 results for "android laptop computer"

There is something of a blurry line between the two these days.

I get the "Android software isn't desktop software" argument, but then, I can also fire up up emacs in Termux on my Android phone, so that's kind of blurry too.