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[–] josefo@leminal.space 57 points 1 week ago (4 children)

What if we start killing board members instead of just CEOs, you know, the puppet masters along with the puppet.

While we are at it, also any billionaires to

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

There's no shortage of steel that I'm aware of, and chain production is entirely automated at this point. So why not?

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You can't murder your way out of a situation you didn't murder yourself into.

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

Not with that attitude.

[–] CyberMonkey404@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

Technically speaking humanity did murder itself out of feudalism and into capitalism

[–] kurwa@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

They started it, we just need to finish it.

[–] Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is my biggest frustration with these posts. We might not like it, but CEOs are still working class. Most of their wealth is derived from a paycheck. They aren't even the owning class. They're rich AF, but they're a symptom more than a problem.

[–] josefo@leminal.space 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

CEOs are not working class dumbass hahahaha

[–] Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Working class means your primary wealth generation tool is selling your labor. The compensation plans vary widely, but I think most CEOs are earning most of their wealth through a salary vs returns on things they own.

You can hate it all you want, but that's what working class means.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They're mostly paid in stock options.

[–] Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

According to Forbes, on average 60% of CEO compensation is equity. In short, I was wrong. My bad!

[–] josefo@leminal.space 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ok genius, what's the"labor" provided by a CEO? How do horizontal organizations like cooperative manage without that piece of labor? Do you know what a traitor of it class is? It's the reason police don't get the working class title either, they are watchdogs that provide no labor value, just means of control for the ruling class. Fuck capitalism, CEOs, the police, and everyone collaborating with oppression.

[–] Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think value to society weighs into the equation, just the ratio of salary to ownership wealth gain.

There are bad people in the working class that are a net detriment to society, just as there are good people in the owning class that are a net benefit. Those good and bad deeds don't change how they accrue wealth and therefore don't change their class.

This working class isn't a morality judgement, it's a wealth ratio per individual.

[–] josefo@leminal.space 1 points 1 week ago

answer, the question, what is the actual labor value provided to the chain by those laborers? laborers create actual value, the ruling class exploit and extract value created by others. not for society as you say, but actual you know, value, wealth. they are contributing to production or not? it's easy to answer for real labor, mental gymnastics else. They are or are not fucking parasites of the laborers? Answer the question.

[–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

DDD let's a go!