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[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In your area, that may be true. Around here, and by experience in a good chunk of southern Europe, asking for a coffee will get you an espresso 100% of the time.

Asking for drip coffee will probably get you scorned and sent off, or if they're nice they may offer to make you instant coffee if they have it.

[–] Alabaster_Mango@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Scorned? Lol, what a bunch of prudes. Some people just can't let others enjoy things. Espresso used to be considered hoity toity here in Canada, but that was years ago. It's pretty normalized now.

I was under the impression that even if it was the norm, espressos were always referred to as espressos. Neat. I know a good chunk of the world also heavily uses French presses in their coffee making, but the end result is functionally similar to drip coffee.

Edit: I believe I've been misunderstood. Not having drip coffee doesn't make one a prude. Scorning others for their preferred beverage preparation makes one a prude.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Not sure I'd call them prudes, it's just that anywhere that serves coffee - every coffee shop, restaurant, bakery, pub, etc - has a grinder and a "professional" (multiple taps) espresso machine, it's just "standard" - I don't think I've seen a coffee pot other than in niche American-styled dinners, or hotels for tourists. Asking for an Americano is a thing though, but what you get is an espresso in a mug. The "drip" variety usually tastes either very bland or quite burnt, and doesn't punch the same way, so the common view is that it's "watered down" coffee and not well regarded.

[–] Alabaster_Mango@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

I believe I've been misunderstood. Not having drip coffee doesn't make one a prude. Scorning others for their preferred beverage preparation makes one a prude.

[–] LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

Not sure about mainland Europe, but in the UK at least, lots of places offer filter coffee and/or V60 in addition to the standard espresso

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In southern Europe, almost everywhere has an espresso machine. Only fancy hipster coffee shops have filter coffee. They're not prudes, they just dont see the point in having to have a completely separate machine for coffee that only gets used once a week just to accommodate a bunch of annoying ass tourists.

[–] Alabaster_Mango@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I believe I've been misunderstood. Not having drip coffee doesn't make one a prude. Scorning others for their preferred beverage preparation makes one a prude.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

That's just how it is in many European countries, particularly more towards the south. For them food is sacred and traditional and you can explore whatever crazy stuff you want as long as you do it over there in private and don't fuck with the classics. In north America this sentiment is much less present though I've seen it a bit with poutine for example where they'll argue about how thick the fries should be and what kind of gravy and etc, but maybe that's the French heritage at work.

[–] Alabaster_Mango@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

If you want to set off a poutine purist you gotta change the cheese. Trad poutine is exclusively made with cheese curds. Lots of places that sell "poutine", however, use shredded cheese of some kind or other. Some people go nuts over it, lol.

I can definitely understand the heritage part. You can't just throw a bunch of stuff in a bowl and claim it's a dish that it is not. Coffee is way more broad and varied than something like cacio e pepe though. I still think it's pretty stuck-up to scorn someone over how they like to drink it. Coffee has been served many different ways in many different places all over the globe. We don't have to shun one another over it.