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[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 15 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Sadly I dont see a third party ever being the solution due to our first past the post political system. We need election reform for a third party to exist, and those 2 cunts you mentioned would NEVER allow election reform to happen on their watch.

[–] DeadWorldWalking@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

[–] humble_pete_digger@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So why not start right now? Not 3 months before elections, now.

Create a web platform and organize. Idea is - to create a "troll" factory but not for trolling , but rather for propagandizing the cause. Let's say you have 10000 accounts army you can then direct on pushing the news and ideas we want and candidates we want.

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

So If i am understanding correctly. You want to use bots to spread propaganda to influence politics? The problem is that congress is going to vote how their donors tell them to vote, they don't give a fuck what their voter base wants. You would also be competing against exactly what you are suggesting, giant capitalist media companies, and bot armies from hostile nation states. You just cant compete with their resources in spreading propaganda.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The Working Families party is like the Tea Party for the Democrats. I don't believe they ever run as a third party.

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How can they get elected? If the party is in the actual interest of American society then all of the money will be stacked up in opposition to them.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

Because people like you will spread the word! :)

It's true though that the Tea Party was quickly captured and turned into an astroturf campaign, so it had a lot of money behind it.

Unfortunately, changing the world isn't easy.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Cool so let's just give up then I guess.

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It always cracks me up how the passive aggressive person saying "lets just give up then!" when one roadblock in a plan is pointed out, is generally the only person giving up. Oh no, the idea I wanted doesn't work, guess were all out of options.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Let me rephrase your comment for you.

"We can't go third party without election reform. Also election reform is impossible."

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah I know what I said, as I was the one who said it, but since subtlety is clearly lost on you... Corruption through capitalist money has captured the government. Nothing is going to change in America without a revolution, otherwise we will continue to barrel fullsteam towards global financial collapse, or world war. If you're interested please shoot me any way you think the system can be fixed without some sort of large violent upheaval and ill described 3 ways in which the system is already securely rigged against it. Ill give you reason #1 as a freebie since it applies to any route you may suggest: they have become way too good at pitting us against each other over wedge issues about shit that doesn't affect us, so we just accept voting for things based on social issues, and as such we can never vote on real issues.