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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/23478086

Common Dreams Staff Dec 10, 2024

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[–] ramsorge@discuss.online 29 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I mean, if he doesn’t say it’s his manifesto, we need to be skeptical. Since he is claiming he is not guilty right now, we have to assume this is something weird.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Nobody pleads guilty to murder. There's no reason to without a really good plea bargain which is very unlikely.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 weeks ago

The PA may want a deal for a quick trial. The publicity of a long and drawn out trial won't look good for all the rich, corrupt, assholes in power. They'll want it to be over quickly and get Luigi shoved out of the lime light. Also, especially without a plea there is a very real chance that one of the jurors could vote "not guilty", which would shine a huge spotlight on the fact that jurors can simply vote "not guilty" if they support whatever a defendant has done and they'd get off completely free, which again, the rich and powerful would dreadfully hate.

So I could see a lot of reasons that a prosecutor would strike a very good plea bargain with Luigi. The risk of an acquittal or long trial that could fuel copycat killings or a huge power shift in the US seems pretty realistic.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] modus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He didn't exactly have money for a lawyer.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] modus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

My mistake. I thought he chose to represent himself.

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wouldn't take a "not guilty" plea as evidence of much.

Pleading "not guilty" is the only way to get in front of a jury, which is probably the best chance he has at this point — both in terms of staying out of jail and in terms of boosting his message.

A trial will inevitably become a media circus, and a media circus is great if your goal is bringing attention to your particular ideology.

[–] ramsorge@discuss.online 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hopefully it’s televised like the O.J. Simpson trial

[–] Brickhead92@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

And then he gets off scot free because the prosecutor keeps calling him Mario.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No lawyer should/would let you plead guilty in a case like this. You have to plead not guilty first, then create a defense.

[–] ramsorge@discuss.online 2 points 2 weeks ago

Well, they would if the prosecution offered a deal. Which I’m sure they did not

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It does not look like the same person, it is super fishy.

[–] ramsorge@discuss.online 2 points 2 weeks ago

Those brows don’t lie. But I am definitely open to evidence that he was not it. This should be a very fascinating trial