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[–] LostXOR@fedia.io 9 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Companies want to spy on you and make money, it's no secret. Just install stock Android or your favorite fork; it quite literally takes 5 minutes with a WebUSB installer.

[–] Virkkunen@fedia.io 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

it quite literally takes 5 minutes with a WebUSB installer.

With a supported phone, on a Chromium browser on Windows. It takes much more than that usually, depending on device, to unlock the bootloader and install a custom ROM

[–] LostXOR@fedia.io 3 points 2 weeks ago

I guess I only have one data point from installing Graphene on my phone. I can see why it would be harder on other devices. Though I was using Linux, and Windows is absolutely not required for WebUSB.

[–] kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Doesn't' the fork like Lineage OS or Graphene also need to support those phone models first?

[–] LostXOR@fedia.io 7 points 2 weeks ago

Yep, Graphene only runs on Pixels but (IIRC) Lineage runs on most mainstream devices. Otherwise stock Android should work fine.

[–] noughtnaut@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

...and then you're locked out of using your phone to pay for things, can't install banking apps and marginal ID apps, et cetera. 😢

[–] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
  1. do you really need to pay with your phone?
  2. do you need to use a banking app and not call the automated system to check?
  3. What ID apps would you used on a phone? Having digital ID's is in it's own a huge breach of privacy and i would never consent to such a system
[–] Cris16228@lemmy.today 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
  1. do you really need to pay with your phone?

Yes and not for me. Having my dad's card on my phone without having the physical card is not that bad

[–] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

fair enough, a unique situation.

[–] Cris16228@lemmy.today 4 points 2 weeks ago

Switched a week ago to grapheneos, I love it and fuck google

[–] LostXOR@fedia.io 1 points 2 weeks ago

It's a tradeoff for sure but it's worth it for a lot of people.

[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Unlocking bootloader took me few hours.
I must register new account, install Windows application (Linux not supported, but Windows Server evaluation is free and works as a VM),
have valid SIM card with Internet access.

But worth it, much better experience.

Unfortunately, average person won't do all this things.

[–] Markaos@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That sounds like Xiaomi. The best price to performance ratio of any OEM, but at the cost of terrible software and this... experience... when you want to get rid of it.

Worth noting that not all OEMs are like this.

[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, bingo.

I hope there are no backdoors in a firmware or modem.