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[–] db2@lemmy.world 193 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

He was carrying it around for absolutely no reason and for long enough to get caught with it? Bullshit, it's manufactured evidence.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 58 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

First thought that came to mind as well, it sounds very implausible for him to be carrying a manifesto.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 40 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Unless he planned on not surviving

[–] db2@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not surviving what, the bus ride?

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 28 points 2 weeks ago
[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 15 points 2 weeks ago

Another thought I had is what if he was still writing it?

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago

I'm totally speculating, but if he's been on the run, he may not have changed his plans on certain... conclusions.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago
[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Well, a YouTube account with the shooters name posted a video today titled "truth" which was basically saying that there were videos scheduled to be made public in the near future (presumably on the same account), which would speak to his motivations and mind set or something of the sort.

Instead of telling you about it, I would prefer to just link the video, but according to YouTube, the account associated with the YouTube channel has been removed, so you can believe me or not on this. the video was only up for about 4 hours and when I saw it, maybe 30 minutes before it was removed from YouTube, it had 10's of thousands of views. I know those counters aren't exactly real time, so it's not unreasonable to think that upwards of 100k people saw it, maybe more, and unless one of them saved it, it's likely that nobody else will see it.

[–] mattd@programming.dev 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] Anti_Face_Weapon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] mattd@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago

That may be so, but the claim in the context that the YouTube handle doesn’t match his Twitter handle is wrong

http://web.archive.org/web/20241209203920/https://www.youtube.com/@PepMangione

I’m not sure about the claim that the account was created yesterday. This article claims it was created in January, but I’m not sure if that can be verified now that the account has been removed

https://www.latintimes.com/youtube-channel-linked-suspected-unitedhealthcare-ceo-shooter-posts-cryptic-countdown-clock-after-568556

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

Lol, Twitter?! Seriously? I'm not even going to click that shit. I know it's not real.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Pretty sure that YT account was faked, or mis-related to Mangione

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

It will be impossible to ever know whether or was or not.

[–] shades@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well well well,

Once, not if, but once it leaks, who ordered this, and who executed said order of this information being suppressed, you'll have more heads in line for the guillotine.

¡Congrats!

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

That list is getting long.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This thing about a guy at Macdonald's recognizing his eyes also sounds bit strange tbh

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Or he consider himself a crusader for a cause more than a vigilante and was carrying it to get more attention to his beliefs.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

And yet instead of waiting around to get lots of attention and people *quoting things he said before cops arrived he quietly got on a bus. Doesn't track.

*fucking worthless autocorrect

[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 weeks ago

My tin foil hat theory is that he was planning out another shooting and got interrupted.