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Big brain tech dude got yet another clueless take over at HackerNews etc? Here's the place to vent. Orange site, VC foolishness, all welcome.

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I can't wait for the spectacular implosion

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[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I for one can't wait for Dan Olson (Folding Ideas) to do a feature length deep dive takedown of it soon :D

[–] Draces@lemmy.world -5 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

That'd be a lot nicer than Ed Zitron non-stop unthinking whiny critique. I don't think I've ever heard someone I agree with being so unpleasant to listen to

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

as someone who grew up in an "old timey" baptist church, I am 100% comfortable with someone yelling things at me that I agree with, but ymmv.

[–] Draces@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, preaching emotions over critical thought sounds like better offline. I literally cancelled my premium Spotify because they didn't give me a way to stop that show from auto playing after behind the bastards

[–] self@awful.systems 6 points 2 weeks ago

i love spock hes my favorite part of the vulcan api

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

un…thinking?

whew that’s sure a word choice right there

[–] Draces@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] self@awful.systems 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Draces@lemmy.world -4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

That Ed Zitron is unpleasant and Dan Olson would do a much better job making the same point. What is this "no you" that you're trying to do? Ed Zitron isn't trying to convince anyone, he's just whining to people that already agree with him and I find it extremely unconstructive

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

freud would've loved meeting you

[–] Draces@lemmy.world -3 points 2 weeks ago

Because I'm whining to people that agree with me or something? I don't know what you're trying to say because not a lot of people seem to agree with me on this so that can't be it

[–] self@awful.systems 2 points 2 weeks ago

What is this “no you” that you’re trying to do?

the penny’s never gonna drop, is it? let me save you the embarrassment

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 3 points 1 week ago

don’t think I’ve ever heard someone I agree with being so unpleasant to listen to

Sending this to EZ so that he can put it as his by-line

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee -2 points 2 weeks ago

Not quite so familiar with this Ed Zitron individual myself, but I agree that critique is best served with precision, clarity, wit, charm, and style. When someone holds a rhetorical position that is correct with regard to reality but articulates said position very poorly, it does a disservice to the discourse at large.

People (albeit foolishly) very well might reflexively adopt an objectively false stance JUST because they don't want to agree with someone so disagreeable.

Or in other words, sometimes nothing makes an idea sound worse than the enthusiastic support of a moron.