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[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Vivaldi instance alow to enter with the general Vivaldi account. It's made for the Vivaldi user, who can use this social network without an extra account. I've a Mastodon account in other instance and a Vivaldi social account with my Vivaldi account.

[–] SteveKLord@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I don't really see why most people would have any interest in this browser's feature then. I know I have no interest in an account on the Vivaldi instance. A better and more popular feature might be a generic mastodon log in to the instance you already use imho

[–] coldhotman@nrsk.no 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think a lot of Vivaldi users already enjoys it, at least that what's it looks like from interacting with them. The setup isn't for me either, but I understand why certain user segments would like it.

[–] SteveKLord@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago

I understand. When I downloaded it I thought it was just a new browser, not meant for users of a specific instance. Would be great to have one connected to my instance so I see the appeal somewhat but it's not a universal one as it seemed to be marketed.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Vivaldi only can log someone in in the own instance in the own server, not in the instance of others. If you have a own Mastodon instance in your own server, do you want that another log someone in in your instance without your consent?

[–] SteveKLord@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Consent isn't the issue. I want a browser that allows me to use it as I choose not as it does. I can log in to my instance on any other browser so why not here. We have different experiences and perspectives but please stop spamming me about Vivaldi .

[–] coldhotman@nrsk.no 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's always this:

I'm fine with them having somewhat preferential treatment for their own instance in their own browser.

[–] SteveKLord@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago

Had the set up been simpler I might have seen this but at this point I'm not likely to re-download it and use it. If someone else wants to that's up to them, of course. I'm not alone in my disappointment / frustration as a non-Vivaldi user.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

You can log in to your instance also in Vivaldi, without problems, as I said, Ive an account in another instance and a different in Vivaldi social and I can switch between one and the other without problems. I have no intention of spamming you with Vivaldi, and no, nobody pays me, I just clarify things as they are and they are not as it is said here, like saying that you cannot log in to another instance in Vivaldi, which is false, Vivaldi social is simply an instance as a service for the Vivaldi user, neither more nor less, which allows the user to access an instance without the need for a separate account, it does not prevent at all from using other instances separately, even from the same Vivaldi instance, from there you can also browse all instances and accessing ther with your corresponding logging data. Just as it is absurd that Vivaldi does not let you use it as you want, being precisely the browser that lets you do everything you want, more than any other current browser, this is precisely what differentiates it from others. If you don't like it, then you simply don't use it, but stop telling falsehoods.

[–] Ferk@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm willing to bet it's the other way around: most Vivaldi users (or at least the ones that matter in terms of extending Mastodon userbase) don't have a Mastodon account but have a Vivaldi account already (since they are already Vivaldi users).

I think the way they have done it is the most comfortable for new users. Specially considering that most likely it'll be Vivaldi users coming to Mastodon, rather than the other way around (since there are better alternatives to Vivaldi for those who value FOSS, which is common in early Mastodon users).

And as mentioned in other comment, you can actually use third party Mastodon accounts, even if the option is not obvious.