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[–] Saryn@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Its much more complicated than that, and yes contemporart information sources (i.e., the internet) have absolutely been weaponized by both state (Russia should come to mind) and non-state (say, ISIL, energy companies, etc) actors, as has been detailed in tens of thousands of pages of research and independent analysis focused on digital forensics. And its not just about the content (i.e., the ideological, cognitive apsects). It's also about control of the infrastructure - think media capture by oligarchs such as Musk or the reverse enginering of social media algorithms by countries like Russia to reach as many people as possible.

I would argue it's disingenuous to equate the activities of the two American parties in this field. If you were to take a comprehensive look at what they've been doing, there is a clear difference in their approach and intent. Where the Democratic Party wants to curtail the influence of foreign authoritarian states and local oligarchs by limiting their ability to spread disinformation, Republicans have been actively undermining these efforts, including by going after US agencies (such as the GEC) and independent researchers at NGOs. Why? Because these agencies and NGOs are exposing their lies and labeling their messages as misleading and dangerous. They are also exposing how aligned the Republics are with foreign authoritarian states.

Granted, I'm a bit biased. I'm one of those researchers. And dealing with SLAPPs and other measures by Republicans and their proxies has been undermining information integrity significantly in the last two years, within and without the US.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world -5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

You’re absolutely biased, and spreading disinformation of your own. People in the US are much more likely to be subjected to disinformation and propaganda from their own government online than any foreign actor. It’s not even close- we’re being flooded with state propaganda from the US astroturfing farms, compared to a trickle from outside sources.

And it’s false to claim the Democrats are attempting to censor for our well-being. Whenever their activities are revealed in leaks or fulfilled FOIA requests, the vast majority is revealed to be censorship of criticism or dissent, or censoring anyone countering the state narrative. Truth and public good are not on the Dem priority list anymore than it’s on the Republicans’.

And worth noting, these censorship efforts are illegal. This is a crime spree.

[–] Saryn@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

It seems I am "absolutely biased" whereas you are clearly absolutely objective. My mistake!

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

He's a known russian troll.

They're not even good at what they're doing, must be a low level troll :-)

[–] Saryn@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, just saw all of his "Ukrainians are Nazis" and "Russia great" comments. Talk about irony and self-contradiction - blames the US for censorship, but glorifies the Kremlin which maintains strict control over the internet and legacy outlets in Russia.

[–] Guilherme@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago

It seems some wave throw the ninja from the surfboard, causing him to smash the head against a rock.