this post was submitted on 04 Jul 2023
60 points (98.4% liked)

GenZedong

4186 readers
25 users here now

This is a Dengist community in favor of Bashar al-Assad with no information that can lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton, our fellow liberal and queen. This community is not ironic. We are Marxists-Leninists.

This community is for posts about Marxism and geopolitics (including shitposts to some extent). Serious posts can be posted here or in /c/GenZhou. Reactionary or ultra-leftist cringe posts belong in /c/shitreactionariessay or /c/shitultrassay respectively.

We have a Matrix homeserver and a Matrix space. See this thread for more information. If you believe the server may be down, check the status on status.elara.ws.

Rules:

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] iriyan@lemmygrad.ml -4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is a very sad picture you are painting. It is like saying that if someone doesn't know about cars and this is the first time buying you can convince them to buy a Chevy, but if they already know about cars and have had a few they will never buy one. Alternatively if they have a BMW why trade it for a Daewoo?

[–] FunCod_64@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, I'd say you have to look at it more like eating habbits. You won't convince someone who's in his 50ies and all his life only ever ate fastfood to eat healthy. It's objectively better for them, deep down they might even know it, but the force of habbit is just to strong.

There is a best choice, but not everyone want's to hear it. You can't convince everyone and have to pick your battles.

[–] WIthoutFurtherDelay@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But that isn’t the demographic I’m talking about. A group of people who call themselves anarchists and can be reasoned with does exist, and refusing to cooperate with them (and instead yelling what you perceive to be The Truth at them until they agree with you) will result in them becoming the inflexible, habitually wrong anarchist.

[–] FunCod_64@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

A group of people who call themselves anarchists and can be reasoned with does exist

I think we both agree on that. I just wanted to point out that that does not mean every anarchist can be reasoned with.

instead yelling what you perceive to be The Truth at them until they agree with you

Again I am with you on that, but no one here advocated that. If I say "they don't want to hear the truth" I am not saying that I tell them they are straight up wrong. If I debate politics with someone I try to point out logical flaws or present my reasoning. If they don't find my reasoning relatable that's fine, most of the time we still agree on a lot of other points.