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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They said it during the debates. I was jazzed to vote Harris and keep that asshole away from office. But to enough people, things like that didn’t matter and they voted against their best interests, and now things are going to get substantially worse than if they voted Harris.

I was excited up to and including the debate. Then everything she did after killed that excitement and I ended up voting for her and Walz only to vote against Trunp. Not because I wanted her in office, and I can see why people stopped caring.

[–] fukhueson@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Trump was not more appealing than Harris at any time frame during this election cycle, and I don't understand why people stopped caring, he's the same person or worse compared to his last presidency. But they're gonna care now, let me tell you. My only hope is that they mentally link the hurt Trump is going to bring with their lack of care during this past election, and learn from their mistake.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

My only hope is that they mentally link the hurt Trump is going to bring with their lack of care during this past election, and learn from their mistake.

I wouldn't put money on it. A lot of people voted for two terms of gwb and then after the economy was in complete fucking shambles voted for Obama and expected everything to be fixed overnight.

Voters in this country are fickle, uneducated, uninformed clowns that continually make shitty decisions and don't learn from them.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It isn't about Trump being more appealing. It is about being motivated to show up to vote. Harris killed that motivation, which is why voters for Dems turnout was so low.

You don't understand it because you are focused on her opponent, as was I. But Dems succeed when turnout is higher, and apparently stopping fascism by continuing the same mediocre Dem policies isn't enough motivation.

[–] fukhueson@lemmy.world -2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

apparently stopping fascism ~~by continuing the same mediocre Dem policies~~ isn't enough motivation.

I'll take great Democratic policies that Trump will sadly now take credit for (IRA, chips, infrastructure, to name a few) over Trump any day.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

A better version of Social Security could exist instead of propping up the stock market with IRAs that are great for the middle class and suck for the poor is why IRAs are mediocre.

Dems barely make efforts on infrastructure. Yeah, biggest plin blah bkllah blah is still miles behind where it needs to be. Mediocre.

They failed to get single payer healthcare like first world countries because they wanted to keep the stupid filibuster that the Republicans will most likely ditch now that they have all three branches.

Dems still give handjobs to the police.

Not to mention Dems are also pretty shitty when it comes to international politics. They don't start wars I guess, so there's that.

[–] fukhueson@lemmy.world -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

None of this makes them worse than Trump.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

When did I ever say they were?

[–] fukhueson@lemmy.world -4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

So when you're downplaying Democratic accomplishments, that is not to give legitimacy for one to have not voted, or to have voted for Trump? Because that advertisement makes me more confident in my vote for Harris, knowing what I know about Trump.

Edited for past tense.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Being better than Republicans doesn't make them immune to criticism.

I am explaining why people lost motivation to vote at all. Not justifying, explaining.