Russian President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday signed a revised nuclear doctrine declaring that a conventional attack on Russia by any nation that is supported by a nuclear power will be considered a joint attack on his country.

The signing of the doctrine, which says that any massive aerial attack on Russia could trigger a nuclear response, reflects Putin’s readiness to threaten use of the country’s nuclear arsenal to force the West to back down as Moscow presses a slow-moving offensive in Ukraine.

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[–] Zron@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You know the US also has a launch on wanting policy.

If any of the billion dollar spy satellites see an ICBM launch that’s even vaguely going towards the US, we launch an overwhelming response.

Russia isn’t going to drop a few nukes and waltz away, because the US has the same system or better in place already. Especially if Russia hits a nato country, we’re all gonna die due to MAD. One bomb breaks MAD.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

The US does not have a launch-on-warning system in place.

while the United States maintains the capability to launch nuclear forces under conditions of an ongoing nuclear attack, it does not rely on a launch-under-attack policy to ensure a credible response. Rather, U.S. nuclear forces are postured to withstand an initial attack. In all cases, the United States will maintain a human “in the loop” for all actions critical to informing and executing decisions by the President to initiate and terminate nuclear weapon employment.

https://media.defense.gov/2022/Oct/27/2003103845/-1/-1/1/2022-NATIONAL-DEFENSE-STRATEGY-NPR-MDR.pdf

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Just because it’s not mechanically automatic, does not mean it’s not a launch on warning system.

The key phrase there is “it does not rely on a launch-under-attack policy to ensure credible defense”

If the US detects a ICBM launch, it will launch a response. It does not matter if the thing that presses the button is a person or an automated program.

Launch on warning just means a country won’t physically absorb a nuclear strike before launching, but will launch if an enemy launch is detected. It has nothing to do with automatic launch systems.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The US absolutely has a missile warning system

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes thank you. What I said was that our warning system is not our trigger. Our triggers have people pulling them. I went back and hyphenated it properly for you.

Unlike Russian nuclear policy in this regard, known a Dead Hand aka Permitr, where the warning system is also the trigger.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 1 points 39 minutes ago

Heard makes sense now. I only browse stoned lol