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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 66 points 17 hours ago (21 children)

The Germans did have hand grenades without a stick. Their doctrine was the stick type was for offensive operations, and the little one was favored for defense.

I assume this has something to do with the distance you can throw them.

[–] _bcron_@lemmy.world 17 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (8 children)

Yeah, the basic premise for these things is that they have a smaller radius, but you can throw them further, so the enemy has to deal with it exactly the same, but since the radius is smaller and you threw it further, it gives you a much larger space in which you can advance and not worry about shrapnel. Basically lob a couple and while you don't have to deal with so much suppressive fire, advance and find cover and do it all over again.

For defensive scenarios, you generally aren't advancing, you're just wanting the enemy to not advance, so a pineapple works just as well, if not better. It gives you a big boom, and psychologically that gives you an edge. You might also get flushed out and wind up in close quarters kinds of environments where the grenade on a stick just doesn't work, but the pineapple is easy enough to lob out of a window or bunker or around a corner. In any sort of urban or close quarters environment you'd want the flexibility of a baseball as opposed to throwing a bat.

Kind of a trench war novelty, but they've evolved to be more of an antiarmor thing - throw a parachute on it so it's aligned vertically, make it detonate when it lands, make it blow straight down as opposed to all over the place, and try to get that thing to land on a tank

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

throw a parachute on it so it's aligned vertically, make it detonate when it lands, make it blow straight down as opposed to all over the place, and try to get that thing to land on a tank

You've basically just described a HEAT round without the melted copper penetrator.

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

Actually, they just described a HEAT grenade. Of the cute anti-armor grenades with parachutes, the RKG-3 is a great example. The purpose of the parachute is to make sure the HEAT penetrator is facing the right direction.

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