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Harris campaign failed to connect with working class, US union federation says
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 16 Nov 2024
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You know what you call someone who votes for fascism? A fascist.
How do you appeal to fascists without being more fascist than the alternative?
America is comprised of stupider, shittier people than was thought.
That's a pretty reductionist take, eh? Did it make you feel better to vent? It's okay to vent. But also consider that you're only seeing a small part of a larger whole.
The larger whole either voted for fascism or couldn’t be bothered to vote against it. That’s the country we live in.
Was there some other “larger whole” you were referring to?
yeah. a full 3/4ths of the country brought trump into office.
1/4th voted for him
2/4ths didnt give a damn about voting and let him in via their own inaction. and are just as responsible as the ones who voted for him.
So the voters are idiots.
That doesnt mean the democratic party arent fuckheads that got what they got cause they dont listen to what the people are screaming for.
Progressives promise "better for the American 99%".
People screaming for something no party could deliver or neither candidate could promise were confused. People who voted for the worst option imaginable for all factors including the impossibilities they were demanding are morons who deserve the leopards.
Sure, but you seem like you've already found answers that satisfy you. I'm no Sisyphus to push online boulders up a hill, but I will give you my two cents:
In essence, our perspectives differ on apportioning blame. You heap it on voters, while I would argue that, in a two party system, culpability lies with the party who failed to engage and motivate their electorate. That is quite literally their entire raison d'etre.
So it's easy to say we have ignorant, uneducated, and mean-spirited voters- and I wouldn't argue that those descriptors are valid in many cases. Which says nothing of decades of declining public education, massive media intervention, oligarch pie-thumbing, or unaddressed racial tensions dating back to the Civil War.
But if that is the clay that an artist is given to mold, then it is incumbent upon the ARTIST to rise to the occasion and find a way to produce a grand work. And if they are unable- if they cannot MAKE GOOD on the necessary products required for civil social union, then they are something worse than an enemy. Ineptitude (feigned or real) is simply no longer tolerable when the stakes are this high.
And the stakes ARE high, despite the constant flip-flopping of messaging from the current administration. We either face clear and present dangers to the Union, or we accept that decorum is MORE important to our leaders than efficacy and the hope of America remaining a going-concern. And if our Leadership chooses decorum over action, if etiquette is their only talent, then the harshest criticism is not only valid, but a requirement of every citizen who still hopes for the erstwhile fantasy of living in and being part of the better American Dream.
I addressed this in my very first comment.
It seems you’ve put all your effort into being condescending, and none into reading.
lol, ok.
If you take any counter argument as condescension it's probably a lot more about your own insecurities rather than the merits of the arguments. I would guess it's a pattern in your life. Best of luck to you.
You opened with condescension.
And then left "larger whole" dangling without definition, presumably in an attempt to bait me somehow.
I didn't play your game, and now you're mad.
Ok, whatever makes you feel better.
imagine the dumbest person you personally know.
now realize half of America is twice as dumb.