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[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'd hate to burst your bubble, but they're only going to be less effective against right-wing organizations. If anything left-wing groups have more to fear, nor less.

I know, anything western is bad in your opinion, but they are trying to strengthen right-wing authoritarianism. Whatever you claim to believe in is going to suffer from it, though I don't want to accuse you of being honest with your claims.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

You're trying to pick a fight with me for some reason, but nothing you said contradicts anything I said, but does contradict the article's position. You're saying that the agencies will be just as competent, but wrongly directed under Trump, which I completely agree with. The article is whining that they won't be competently run, which is only a problem because of the assumption that their objectives would be good things. If that assumption isn't true (it isn't) and the things they're trying to do are bad, then it would obviously be better if they persued those objectives ineffectively, and the article would make no sense.

Gabbard is stunningly unqualified for almost any Cabinet post, but especially for ODNI. She has no qualifications as an intelligence professional—literally none. She has no significant experience directing or managing much of anything.

Any reasonable person on the left should recognize that an incompetent and unqualified person being in charge of Trump's spy network is the best case reasonable possibility. The idea of anyone claiming to be on the left clutching pearls about the intelligence community being incompetently run under Trump is completely absurd and laughable.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It's only going to be incompetent at the objectives it had previously. It's assuming the objectives remain the same, which it won't. Their objectives are going to shift towards singularly targeting political enemies. I don't believe she'll be as incompetent as implied, because she has plenty of competent Trump sycophants willing to help out. She just needs to be there to ensure the goal is being persued. Even if she's a complete idiot (which she isn't) she doesn't need to do anything but enforce the agenda of the Trump administration.

She's going to be horrible for things like undermining Russian or Chinese power structures (which some may believe to be good or bad), but she's perfectly competent to allow others to persue leftists.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The only thing I disagree about is that persuing leftists is an objective they previously had. The intelligence community is, always has been, and always will be, an enemy.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

They persued other things too. Yes, the left as well, but it wasn't their only focus. You can be sure now it will be.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Boo hoo. I don't give a shit about protecting people who hate me or their agenda.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Or anyone else but yourself I guess.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes, clearly my insufficient level of sympathy for the fucking CIA proves that I'm just a misanthrope who hates everyone.

Or, alternatively, it's precisely because I give a shit about the vast majority of humanity, which has been harmed by them, that I despise the CIA.

Again, y'all's ideology is completely incomprehensible. Anyone who's unsympathetic towards the CIA can't possibly be a real leftist, right? Where the hell do you even get this ideology from? Is there, like, a book I can read that makes Anarcho-CIAism make sense?

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 0 points 31 minutes ago

I didn't say anything about sympathy for the CIA. Having the CIA focused on a specific group of people, rather than what they actually should be focused on (things like Russia influencing elections, not just in the US, for example) is bad. The CIA is not going away because of this.