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[–] themoken@startrek.website 25 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Everyone pointing at people that didn't vote for Harris over Gaza like this is some gotcha moment are totally missing the point. If Gaza was your primary concern (like if you and your family are Palestinian perhaps) neither candidate was going to do anything for you at all. Harris paid a tiny bit of lip service to Gaza two days before the election after months of shutting down and ignoring everyone demanding ceasefire.

I voted Harris purely out of harm reduction, but she offered nothing to anyone on the left. The DNC assumes everyone that is queer or bipoc or a woman owes them their vote and then used the platform to court non-existent center right voters.

But nah, let's pretend that Harris, who took Biden's positions wholesale, would have done something different as if they weren't currently in power. Let's pretend they would have done something to restore abortion rights too, or tackle climate change or raise the minimum wage when they're so busy trying to get fascist votes and not piss off the coporate donor class.

The Democratic party needs to be rebuilt from scratch or not rebuilt at all.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Everyone pointing at people that didn’t vote for Harris over Gaza like this is some gotcha moment are totally missing the point.

Yes, yes. We get your "point". Harris's policy on Gaza was bad, so of course the clear solution was to hand the Presidency to someone who would make it worse. To send a message.

Good job, guys. Your message was loud and clear. I'm sure that in 2028, Democrats might have a slightly more pro-Palestine agenda. Maybe. Until they realize there's a hell of a lot more Jewish voters that would be even more pissed off. Lesson learned. I'm sure the people of Palestine who will lose their land, their families, and their lives between now and then will take solace in knowing that you sacrificed their lives on their behalf to send a political message in a country 5000 miles away. I'm sure that's exactly what they wanted.

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago

Except that basically every angle except geopolitics, MIC profits, and AIPAC money, pointed towards curbing Israel/Bibi as a a good move. Even a free and independent Palestine has supermajority support - from a Nov-Oct poll of American Jewish voters:

Jewish voters… priorities include a major speech proposing a Palestinian state and diplomatic relations between Israel and Arab states (72 percent) and increasing humanitarian aid to Palestinians (71 percent). There is also significant support (66 percent) for sanctioning Israeli ministers Itamar Ben-Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich for aiding violent settler attacks against Palestinians.

Emphasis mine. Review the data if you care, but the continuation of Bidens policies was a huge self own. Resolve the issue and Republicans/Russian messaging of ‘Genocide Joe’ falls flat.

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