Growing number of reports seem to be walking away from "Russian missile" claim floated by those invested most in escalating. Even "OSINT" sites are admitting the missiles that landed in Poland are most likely from an S-300 system, in other words, Ukrainian air defense.

edit: and looks like it is indeed an Ukrainian missile https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1592629251161075712

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Even “OSINT” sites are admitting the missiles that landed in Poland are most likely from an S-300 system, in other words, Ukrainian air defense.

Assuming that is true (and no guarantee that it is), it still means that Russia is shooting rockets incredibly close to the border for there to be explosions of any type 15 miles inside Poland. Russia needs to end its reckless bombing campaign.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Last I checked, nobody is really in a position to tell Russia how to conduct the war. If the west wants the war to end then they should be telling their puppets in Kiev to start negotiating instead of continuing to pour fuel into the fire.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Last I checked, nobody is really in a position to tell Russia how to conduct the war.

They most certainly are. Russia just caused the death of two Polish citizens. Poland currently could invoke Article 4. Up until now, NATO's involvement in the Russo-Ukraine war has been incredibly small. It's mostly been Ukrainians using the weaponry from the back of NATO's closet. Imagine if instead you had NATO bombers taking out the artillery that caused this and targeting Russian positions. That threat is how NATO can tell Russia how to conduct its invasion. And it's no fault but Russia's for being so incredibly reckless.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

No, according to latest information available, Ukraine caused death of two Polish citizens. However, let's say it was Russia. You expect NATO is insane enough to rush into a nuclear holocaust over that, and you seriously think Russia would fight a direct war with NATO the same way they fight against Ukraine?

What's been incredibly reckless was NATO escalating tensions since the collapse of USSR that got us where we are today. Only a simpleton would ignore this and place blame entirely on Russia.

[–] graphito@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

nobody is really in a position to tell Russia how to conduct the war

Heard of international law, sweaty? Somehow even invaders don't wanna see it enforced, grudgingly abiding and spitting nuclear threats.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Heard of international law, sweaty? Somehow even invaders don’t wanna see it enforced, grudgingly abiding and spitting nuclear threats.

Somebody should let international law know about all the shit NATO has been doing around the world ASAP sweaty.