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TIL about False cognates, pairs of words [with] similar sounds and meaning, but different etymologies; "For example, the English word dog and the Mbabaram word dog" (en.m.wikipedia.org)

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There is a table of examples in the link. Some I saw include:

Desert

desert Latin dēserō ("to abandon") << ultimately PIE **seh₁- ("to sow")
Ancient Egyptian: Deshret (refers to the land not flooded by the Nile) from dšr (red)

Shark

shark Middle English shark from uncertain origin
Chinese 鲨 (shā) Named as its crude skin similar to sand (沙 (shā))

Kayak

Inuktitut ᖃᔭᖅ (kayak) Proto-Eskimo *qyaq
Turkish kayık ('small boat')[17] Old Turkic kayguk << Proto-Turkic kay- ("to slide, to turn")

A lot of these could be TIL posts of their own.

I also wonder if some of these are actually false cognates, or if there is a much earlier common origin with false associations that came afterwards

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[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 week ago

Danke 💕 I was half asleep reading it as well, that might not have helped.

I'm not really gifted, language wise, but I'm pretty interested. I love watching this one YouTuber of which which I forgot (Brit which seems to live in Germany, explaining things like the great vowel shift (aha, remembered! https://youtu.be/fmL6FClRC_s) and I'm fascinated by the similarities of old English and modern German. But I won't ever be able to keep things like those "For example /t͡ʃ/ is as in ⟨chill⟩, /θ/ is as in ⟨think⟩, /kʷ/ is as in ⟨queen⟩ but Latin handles it as a single unit, etc." in memory.

I understand it as I'm reading, but it'll be gone tomorrow. Washed away by some algorithm in trying to get working.

But thank you so much, it was a pleasure reading 💖