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This assumes that Democrats want to win at any cost. Listening to Sanders is a bridge too far.
Democrats would rather lose than do even the most tepid social democratic reformism.
It sucks to realize in hindsight, but if Bernie had won the 2016 primary he would have been thoroughly ratfucked as a matter of bipartisan consensus. The Democrats would have sabotaged his national campaign at every step, probably even going as far as to have a few high profile Democrats endorse a third party candidate to make sure Bernie loses.
Look at what Labour did to Corbyn.
The people who kill are not those who refuse to vote. It's those that vote to kill.
Allowing someone to be killed through deliberate inaction is the same as killing them. You're responsible for the actions you chose not to take.
You've killed thousands if that is true. You could have said something to prevent a suicide, you could have spared a dollar to save a homeless person who froze that night. You are a mass murderer if you really think that. It's a sad way to live.
Are you sure you saw the word "deliberate"?
How are my examples not deliberate?
Drag did say all drag could to prevent a suicide whenever one of drag's friends was down. And it worked, none of drag's friends are dead yet.
So you deliberately only assist those you consider "a friend"?
We really don't need to keep dragging this out. My point is simply that voting for the "lesser evil" is not morally superior to voting for your ideal candidate or protest voting. And fighting for an actually left movement to take power benefits us all.
Drag has helped plenty of acquaintances too, and they were all alive last drag saw them, but many dozens, drag has no way of knowing. The vast majority of people drag has ever met, drag will never see again.
Did you even volunteer for Harris or donate to her campaign? 🙄