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because you can play meaningless "what if?" games like this forever. at the end of the day you don't have to be a pessimist to realize the odds of something here changing the world are so minute that it's fine to put a moratorium on certain kinds of posts. you're not going to convince me otherwise. and even in the optimistic scenario: virtually all of what's discussed here, while interesting, is designed to be fleeting and buried. conversations on link aggregators tend to have a shelf-life of no more than a week, and that's not really where you're going to find ideas that make change. here the conversations usually die down after an even shorter period (about two days).
frankly: if the next Lenin or whatever is actually on Lemmy, i'd tell them to get a blog instead of hashing it out in link aggregator comment sections. it's a better use of their time, it's a better place to test and hone their ideas, and they have actual editorial control over everything.
i think you're conflating "having value" with "changing the world" when these are two essentially independent qualities. at no point have we ever sought to "change the world" with this (because we're five people running this in our spare time, that's not in our capabilities as people), and from the beginning we've said we'd be content with only a handful of people using this place as long as they get something out of doing it (because that's what we consider valuable, not whether or not this can have sweeping social impact or importance).
I hear you, and agree it's unlikely that Lemmy will change the world. But frankly I'm surprised how little faith you have in the platform you help moderate. Why are you doing this if you don't think what happens here matters?
For an example how I would have handled it, the Ten Forward Star Trek community did it right, in my opinion.
Even though small internet forums are politically insignificant in the grand scheme of things, certain behaviors/topics can still be annoying for the people who frequent them. Beehaw as an instance is interested in curating a pleasant experience for their users and are simply following through on that by introducing a temporary break from a topic that's prone to ragebait until people have had time to calm down.
Thank you, this framing makes sense to me. I still disagree with the ultimate decision, but I understand and appreciate your tone.
if you think something has to arbitrarily "matter" to be socially valuable to do then there's your problem. in any case, i certainly don't think the value of this platform rests on "people knifing each other about a presidential election they have very little power over the outcome of."