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How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world. About 1C of total warming. Second chart: about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability. Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases. About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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Its not getting any better. dont know what to do. I cant live in a future like this. All of the work we have put out is now gone. Ita going to get worse

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[–] Firebirdie713@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Even if that is true, why take out your frustration like this, by raging against those of us who are willing to do all the good we can?

I am not promising that we will be able to fix everything. Heck, I don't even know if we can fully fix anything. But until every last living being is dead, there is something here that deserves every chance we can give or get.

You don't have to participate, but to argue against this kind of work is like denying pain medication to someone who is dying and justifying it by saying 'meds will not save you'. If we can't save the life, we can at least save them from as much suffering as we can manage.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Deluding yourself is neither going to help, nor is it all the good we can do. And what do you mean I don't have to participate? I doubt any of your guys footprint is even anywhere near as small as mine. It's not me that you have to convince to fucking do something when I'm the one who wants those "extremistic" measures being taken.

[–] Firebirdie713@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 days ago

And where am I ruling that out? I never said that this resistance would always be peaceful. But the sooner you start coordinating with the people around you, the better prepared for that violence we will be, and the better our chances are to prevent a lot of deaths. You can claim otherwise, but sitting alone while my neighbors and friends die is unconscionable to me.

But what am I deluding myself about? I have literally admitted that what we do may not be able to fix things entirely, but we doom ourselves more if we don't take action. You obviously know that already, given your statement about your footprint, so why are you arguing against another person calling for direct action?